WARNING "They did it Again"
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WARNING "They did it Again"
Someone stole pics of my car once again and put it on there site to sell body kit parts.
I emailed the website to remove them and they said NO.
Here is the email response I got:
Hello Gabriel
You should know that Federal Law of Canada say that each pictures shown to general public or over the internet doenst have any copyright. The only way you can give copyright to picture is by tagging them with a embed watermark by a digimark program. This cost approx $10 000 per year to get the digimark software and we scan each picture before putting them on the website, your pictures doenst have this watermark. We are not talking about layers OVER the pictures but watermark encrypted INSIDE the pictures, in the code.
You should also know that pictures on cardomain or any other public website are used for general public and they are free to be used by anyone at anytime for business purpose or personal purpose.
You should know, at first, that if you don't want the people or company to use your pictures, well simply don't show them to general public and keep them for yourself.
You should know also that there is a way to ask something and there is a way to earn something. If we get a polite email that ask us gently to remove pictures, we would do it within 5 minutes.. but the way you asked for it.. I will be more than happy to keep them on the website.
Have a nice day
(with a little icon of a baby sucking on a pacifier)
He did not even have the courage to sign his name.
What I find amusing is what do they tell there customers when they don't get it with the side vent?
Check to see if your car is being used also
Here is the link
and the picture from the site
Don't do business with these dishonest people
I emailed the website to remove them and they said NO.
Here is the email response I got:
Hello Gabriel
You should know that Federal Law of Canada say that each pictures shown to general public or over the internet doenst have any copyright. The only way you can give copyright to picture is by tagging them with a embed watermark by a digimark program. This cost approx $10 000 per year to get the digimark software and we scan each picture before putting them on the website, your pictures doenst have this watermark. We are not talking about layers OVER the pictures but watermark encrypted INSIDE the pictures, in the code.
You should also know that pictures on cardomain or any other public website are used for general public and they are free to be used by anyone at anytime for business purpose or personal purpose.
You should know, at first, that if you don't want the people or company to use your pictures, well simply don't show them to general public and keep them for yourself.
You should know also that there is a way to ask something and there is a way to earn something. If we get a polite email that ask us gently to remove pictures, we would do it within 5 minutes.. but the way you asked for it.. I will be more than happy to keep them on the website.
Have a nice day
(with a little icon of a baby sucking on a pacifier)
He did not even have the courage to sign his name.
What I find amusing is what do they tell there customers when they don't get it with the side vent?
Check to see if your car is being used also
Here is the link
and the picture from the site
Don't do business with these dishonest people
Originally Posted by LatinMax
Someone stole pics of my car once again and put it on there site to sell body kit parts.
I emailed the website to remove them and they said NO.
Here is the email response I got:
Hello Gabriel
You should know that Federal Law of Canada say that each pictures shown to general public or over the internet doenst have any copyright. The only way you can give copyright to picture is by tagging them with a embed watermark by a digimark program. This cost approx $10 000 per year to get the digimark software and we scan each picture before putting them on the website, your pictures doenst have this watermark. We are not talking about layers OVER the pictures but watermark encrypted INSIDE the pictures, in the code.
You should also know that pictures on cardomain or any other public website are used for general public and they are free to be used by anyone at anytime for business purpose or personal purpose.
You should know, at first, that if you don't want the people or company to use your pictures, well simply don't show them to general public and keep them for yourself.
You should know also that there is a way to ask something and there is a way to earn something. If we get a polite email that ask us gently to remove pictures, we would do it within 5 minutes.. but the way you asked for it.. I will be more than happy to keep them on the website.
Have a nice day
(with a little icon of a baby sucking on a pacifier)
He did not even have the courage to sign his name.
What I find amusing is what do they tell there customers when they don't get it with the side vent?
Check to see if your car is being used also
Here is the link
and the picture from the site
Don't do business with these dishonest people
I emailed the website to remove them and they said NO.
Here is the email response I got:
Hello Gabriel
You should know that Federal Law of Canada say that each pictures shown to general public or over the internet doenst have any copyright. The only way you can give copyright to picture is by tagging them with a embed watermark by a digimark program. This cost approx $10 000 per year to get the digimark software and we scan each picture before putting them on the website, your pictures doenst have this watermark. We are not talking about layers OVER the pictures but watermark encrypted INSIDE the pictures, in the code.
You should also know that pictures on cardomain or any other public website are used for general public and they are free to be used by anyone at anytime for business purpose or personal purpose.
You should know, at first, that if you don't want the people or company to use your pictures, well simply don't show them to general public and keep them for yourself.
You should know also that there is a way to ask something and there is a way to earn something. If we get a polite email that ask us gently to remove pictures, we would do it within 5 minutes.. but the way you asked for it.. I will be more than happy to keep them on the website.
Have a nice day
(with a little icon of a baby sucking on a pacifier)
He did not even have the courage to sign his name.
What I find amusing is what do they tell there customers when they don't get it with the side vent?
Check to see if your car is being used also
Here is the link
and the picture from the site
Don't do business with these dishonest people
Hard to believe this is a REAL company!! i have never seen a company or professional site have such Poor grammer and spelling and handle a problem is such a child like immature manner!! boycott that site !!
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Here you go. I sent it to all the departments.
info@onderground-design.com
sales@onderground-design.com
webmaster@onderground-design.com
wholesale@onderground-design.com
Make sure that your cars are not on there.
There have been a bunch of people from the other forums that are getting similar responses for the guy...and he doesn't even have the ***** to sign his emails.
info@onderground-design.com
sales@onderground-design.com
webmaster@onderground-design.com
wholesale@onderground-design.com
Make sure that your cars are not on there.
There have been a bunch of people from the other forums that are getting similar responses for the guy...and he doesn't even have the ***** to sign his emails.
Originally Posted by LatinMax
Here you go. I sent it to all the departments.
info@onderground-design.com
sales@onderground-design.com
webmaster@onderground-design.com
wholesale@onderground-design.com
Make sure that your cars are not on there.
There have been a bunch of people from the other forums that are getting similar responses for the guy...and he doesn't even have the ***** to sign his emails.
info@onderground-design.com
sales@onderground-design.com
webmaster@onderground-design.com
wholesale@onderground-design.com
Make sure that your cars are not on there.
There have been a bunch of people from the other forums that are getting similar responses for the guy...and he doesn't even have the ***** to sign his emails.
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From: DFW
Originally Posted by FlorendoCruz
i would feel kinda honored to have my car in a website. Id be mad if they said that the pic is their own car.
Besides no one even makes the peice that he advertising.
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From: where the polar bears roam
Originally Posted by LatinMax
Someone stole pics of my car once again and put it on there site to sell body kit parts.
I emailed the website to remove them and they said NO.
Here is the email response I got:
Hello Gabriel
You should know that Federal Law of Canada say that each pictures shown to general public or over the internet doenst have any copyright. The only way you can give copyright to picture is by tagging them with a embed watermark by a digimark program. This cost approx $10 000 per year to get the digimark software and we scan each picture before putting them on the website, your pictures doenst have this watermark. We are not talking about layers OVER the pictures but watermark encrypted INSIDE the pictures, in the code.
You should also know that pictures on cardomain or any other public website are used for general public and they are free to be used by anyone at anytime for business purpose or personal purpose.
You should know, at first, that if you don't want the people or company to use your pictures, well simply don't show them to general public and keep them for yourself.
You should know also that there is a way to ask something and there is a way to earn something. If we get a polite email that ask us gently to remove pictures, we would do it within 5 minutes.. but the way you asked for it.. I will be more than happy to keep them on the website.
Have a nice day
(with a little icon of a baby sucking on a pacifier)
He did not even have the courage to sign his name.
What I find amusing is what do they tell there customers when they don't get it with the side vent?
Check to see if your car is being used also
Here is the link
and the picture from the site
Don't do business with these dishonest people
I emailed the website to remove them and they said NO.
Here is the email response I got:
Hello Gabriel
You should know that Federal Law of Canada say that each pictures shown to general public or over the internet doenst have any copyright. The only way you can give copyright to picture is by tagging them with a embed watermark by a digimark program. This cost approx $10 000 per year to get the digimark software and we scan each picture before putting them on the website, your pictures doenst have this watermark. We are not talking about layers OVER the pictures but watermark encrypted INSIDE the pictures, in the code.
You should also know that pictures on cardomain or any other public website are used for general public and they are free to be used by anyone at anytime for business purpose or personal purpose.
You should know, at first, that if you don't want the people or company to use your pictures, well simply don't show them to general public and keep them for yourself.
You should know also that there is a way to ask something and there is a way to earn something. If we get a polite email that ask us gently to remove pictures, we would do it within 5 minutes.. but the way you asked for it.. I will be more than happy to keep them on the website.
Have a nice day
(with a little icon of a baby sucking on a pacifier)
He did not even have the courage to sign his name.
What I find amusing is what do they tell there customers when they don't get it with the side vent?
Check to see if your car is being used also
Here is the link
and the picture from the site
Don't do business with these dishonest people
How did you approch the issue with them in the first place?
Cessna (Wants to read your letter to them)
Originally Posted by LatinMax
What if it was custom and they were making money off of it without your permission, paying you or even recognizing you.
Besides no one even makes the peice that he advertising.
Besides no one even makes the peice that he advertising.
Hahah...here's Rickdog's car and VitaminZ's car (I think his name is Vitaminz???)...
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=135&ID=6330
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=135&ID=6330
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From: DFW
Originally Posted by cessna
Bull****! That's all bull****! You can fight that one in court brother.... (With lots of patience, time, and money invested) You'll win. Now the question is....
How did you approch the issue with them in the first place?
Cessna (Wants to read your letter to them)
How did you approch the issue with them in the first place?
Cessna (Wants to read your letter to them)
You have pictures of my car that are stolen and you donot have permission to use on your site.
Please remove within 10 days or I will take further legal action against your company.
Here is one link to your site of my car.
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=139&ID=2018
Gabriel Corra
“LatinMax”
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I know it was a little direct, but I know of a few others that have sent emails to them (about their cars) and they were as mature as the response I got.
They are getting a bunch of bad coverage over this from a number of other sites.
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From: DFW
Originally Posted by BhashaZ
Hahah...here's Rickdog's car and VitaminZ's car (I think his name is Vitaminz???)...
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=135&ID=6330
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=135&ID=6330
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i would send emails to this link, and links to any other post you've made on other G, Z, altima ect forums... I'm sure they will enjoy the hate they are recieving from the enthusiest that their business is oriented to.
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From: where the polar bears roam
Originally Posted by LatinMax
Here it is:
You have pictures of my car that are stolen and you donot have permission to use on your site.
Please remove within 10 days or I will take further legal action against your company.
Here is one link to your site of my car.
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=139&ID=2018
Gabriel Corra
“LatinMax”
ATTENTION! The information contained in this email may be CONFIDENTIAL and PRIVILEGED. It is intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please be notified that any use, review, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please delete it and notify the sender
immediately. Thank you.
I know it was a little direct, but I know of a few others that have sent emails to them (about their cars) and they were as mature as the response I got.
They are getting a bunch of bad coverage over this from a number of other sites.
You have pictures of my car that are stolen and you donot have permission to use on your site.
Please remove within 10 days or I will take further legal action against your company.
Here is one link to your site of my car.
http://www.onderground-design.com/sh...en=139&ID=2018
Gabriel Corra
“LatinMax”
ATTENTION! The information contained in this email may be CONFIDENTIAL and PRIVILEGED. It is intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please be notified that any use, review, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please delete it and notify the sender
immediately. Thank you.
I know it was a little direct, but I know of a few others that have sent emails to them (about their cars) and they were as mature as the response I got.
They are getting a bunch of bad coverage over this from a number of other sites.
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From: Maui
Complain to their hosting service, powweb.com, and/or their registrar, tucows.com. You might get lucky and have their hosting service pull their entire site from under them 
From tucows.com, their registrar:
Whois info for, ONDERGROUND-DESIGN.COM:
Registrant:
Belec
820 6th avenue
Laval, Quebec H7R 4K8
CA
Domain name: ONDERGROUND-DESIGN.COM
Administrative Contact:
Belec, Eric surfer2@videotron.ca
820 6th avenue
Laval, Quebec H7R 4K8
CA
450-627-1390
Technical Contact:
Hostmaster, PowWeb hostmaster@powweb.com
2168 S. Atlantic Blvd
#232
Monterey Park, CA 91754
US
626-675-8670
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 18-Apr-2005.
Record expires on 28-Mar-2007.
Record created on 28-Mar-2002.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HOSTMEUP.COM 209.172.50.196
NS2.HOSTMEUP.COM 209.172.50.197
Domain status: ACTIVE
From tucows.com, their registrar:
Whois info for, ONDERGROUND-DESIGN.COM:
Registrant:
Belec
820 6th avenue
Laval, Quebec H7R 4K8
CA
Domain name: ONDERGROUND-DESIGN.COM
Administrative Contact:
Belec, Eric surfer2@videotron.ca
820 6th avenue
Laval, Quebec H7R 4K8
CA
450-627-1390
Technical Contact:
Hostmaster, PowWeb hostmaster@powweb.com
2168 S. Atlantic Blvd
#232
Monterey Park, CA 91754
US
626-675-8670
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 18-Apr-2005.
Record expires on 28-Mar-2007.
Record created on 28-Mar-2002.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HOSTMEUP.COM 209.172.50.196
NS2.HOSTMEUP.COM 209.172.50.197
Domain status: ACTIVE