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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I'm way too scared to try on my car, but I just got told by a friend who drives an S2000 that to get Ultra quick shifts, you 'pop' the clutch by stomping down on the clutch, shifting gears, then side-stepping your foot to the left so the clutch Snaps upwards. Will my transmission fall out if i do this? Will i break the engine?
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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your flux capacitor will actually blow up, its not under warrantee but totally sweet!
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Make sure you're positively in gear before you let the clutch go, you should be fine.

It's a silly thing to do IMO, but that's just me
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tienlo
I'm way too scared to try on my car, but I just got told by a friend who drives an S2000 that to get Ultra quick shifts, you 'pop' the clutch by stomping down on the clutch, shifting gears, then side-stepping your foot to the left so the clutch Snaps upwards.
I don't think you gain anything using this technique, and you loose contact with the clutch pedal in the process.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tienlo
I'm way too scared to try on my car, but I just got told by a friend who drives an S2000 that to get Ultra quick shifts, you 'pop' the clutch by stomping down on the clutch, shifting gears, then side-stepping your foot to the left so the clutch Snaps upwards.
I don't think you gain anything using this technique, and you loose contact with the clutch pedal in the process.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tienlo
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Instead of side stepping the clutch, just lift your foot off of it quickly.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ouch1011
Instead of side stepping the clutch, just lift your foot off of it quickly.
Yeah! well obviously i know its just as quick to do normal quick shifting, but just wondering if i will break anything if i try it for fun
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tienlo
Yeah! well obviously i know its just as quick to do normal quick shifting, but just wondering if i will break anything if i try it for fun
Tell us what happens when the peddle smacks your ankle.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Speed shifting is bad enough as it is. No reason to make it worse. You don't need to side-step the clutch to get that same surge. It would actually take you longer to pop the clutch than it would to just let it right back out quickly. If you want to be mean to your drivetrain for absolutely no reason other than to show you can **** further than the guy next to you, you might as well just join the stupid club and start powershifting.

BTW mulhollanddrive, you're not one of those people who drive around with their foot resting on the clutch, are you? That's what the dead pedal is for. You should "loose" contact with the clutch every time you shift.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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BTW mulhollanddrive, you're not one of those people who drive around with their foot resting on the clutch, are you? That's what the dead pedal is for. You should "loose" contact with the clutch every time you shift.
Oh my! I have been driving wrong for 30+ years . Including commercial trucks. Actually, the dead pedal is OK for awesome curves.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MulhollandDrive
Oh my! I have been driving wrong for 30+ years . Including commercial trucks. Actually, the dead pedal is OK for awesome curves.
You most certainly have.

Nevermind my experience driving sports cars with manual transmissions that started before I was even legal to drive. It just so happens that I drive commercial trucks for a living myself. The company I work for owns their own garage and the head mechanic is a freak of nature. It's absurd the amount of things he knows about mechanics. He never fails to amaze me, and that's not easy to do. He's a super nice guy and always willing to teach. Some of our crackhead drivers sure keep him and his boys busy.

30 years is a lot of experience so I will respect that. But quite simply, even the lightest amount of pressure on the clutch pedal can cause premature wear. It can cause the clutch to slip ever so slightly which generates excess heat and causes premature wear. It's bad technique/practice regardless. It's one of the most common mistakes, even amongst seasoned drivers, so don't feel bad.

The clutch pedal is not a foot rest. That's what the dead pedal is for. Whether you are cornering or not, it doesn't matter. If you want to rest your foot, use the dead pedal or even the floor, not the clutch.

The same thing goes for the shifter. It's not a hand rest. Both hands on the wheel!!
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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I, for some reason, always hover my foot above the clutch, i guess just waiting to shift constatly.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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I, for some reason, always hover my foot above the clutch, i guess just waiting to shift constatly.
Why ? It's not like your shift point will surprise you, you know when you want/need to shift don't you?

Be strong willed and put that left foot on the foot rest now. You can do it!

You're not turning corners on neutral either are you?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by roast
But quite simply, even the lightest amount of pressure on the clutch pedal can cause premature wear
I think you are saying not to ride the clutch and I agree on that. Sure, 99% of the time my left foot is on the dead pedal because I am cruising, but I don't put my foot on the dead pedal between gears when I am cycling up the gears, certainly not when I am going to redline. Instead I just completely release any pressure on the clutch pedal. This has worked for me.

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The same thing goes for the shifter. It's not a hand rest. Both hands on the wheel!!
WHoa. Now how can I hold my coffee cup and talk on the phone if I need to keep a hand on the wheel. I mean that is what my knee is for
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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i just got my new Z as well. (month ago).

and what i do is it about 3k rpm. and dont completley hold the clutch down then drop it, i would imagine thats not good to do.

but find ur clutch and stall ur foot on it, so ur car is moving very little. then let go. i imagine this wouldnt put as much wear on ur clutch rather than completley dropping it.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Taking foot off clutch entirely will slow you down as you will need to find it again quickly to go to the next gear. keep your foot on top of it and realese as quick as possible after positively engaging your selected gear!!
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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I just let the massive amounts of torque pull my body/leg back... something your buddy with the S2K will never experience.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Are you serious dude???

The only thing your friend forgot to mention was to keep the gas pedal pressed all the way to the floor. This technique would work well for startups (aka burnouts) or while upshifting (power shifting). As an added bonus for turbos, it maintains boost between shifts, dispelling the myth that turbos with ATs are actually quicker than their MT counterparts!! That's gotta be worth an additional clutch or two...
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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lol guilty of resting my foot on the clutch while driving.

burned through the OEM clutch. Now on my Nismo clutch.
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