kcobean

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If you re-read it, he's actually slamming his own product recommendation. I don't get the logic, but I didn't read it as getting wise with cwest...more like getting wise with himself (which I hear can make you go blind!)

kcobean

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I would also like to hear the manufacturer claims about "improved throttle response". I've never heard of any other intake boasting this claim.

TK2005

Actually, this isn't the first time has has brought up the ARC intake. I used SEARCH.

Thomas (wise and can't see)

TK2005

All the more reason for us to see dyno results along with a pic of his setup. I know no one would give advice like "this one is the best for this reason" and not even have one of his own.

Malic350

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I don't know which is worse new ppl who don't use the search (some just don't know better) or those who try and think of creative ways to say use the search feature (quite boring now). I guess ppl do love to hear their selves talk and read their own words - over and over and over and over and over ... LOL. So let one person say it then back the hell off that should be the new rule.

ihatepotholes

not really, i don't mind spending extra to get something thats rare and stand out. i just ordered it from hopupracing. i was just expressing my own opinion to the thread starter. can u please do me a favor, tell ur boy tk to get off his high horse, cause if he isn't willing to help other members (lazy or not) then he shouldn't cry about other people's business. y should i share my experience with someone like tk anyway? u want pics and dyno? i got one word for u "SEARCH"!

Hraesvelg

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Just got here and already making rules?

kcobean

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Let's be very clear... TK2005 is not "my boy" in any way, shape or form. I'm not sure what you're implying, but I don't like it.

If you read this thread again, you'll see that I've already commented to him on his responses here. What more would you like me to do?

TK2005

How do you know it improves throttle response if you don't have it? It seems like it's the new guys doing all the crying and making all the demands. I help lots of members out with my knowledge and experience for things that haven't been covered at least 1000 times.

TK2005

The new world order.

ihatepotholes

ok i don't wanna sound like a wiseazz... heres a lil something in case u might wanna know... in japan almost no one use open filter intake, reason being? they aren't into drag racing like most of tuners in US. they r into circuit racing and every aftermarket induction systems r closed element, in order to compete circuit courses cars need low to mid range power and throttle response instead of top end power. theres a couple of episodes of best motorting about AMUSE and Espirie they explain the concept. i had a rsx type s... and i've been around people that use cai and short ram, they all lack in throttle response. some people switched to mugen intake box, the throttle response improved a lot. i know Z and rsx r different cars, but u get the point...

ihatepotholes

i had cai and then switched to ARC on my type S, unless u decide to be given and helpful to the new guys, otherwise don't bother respond to my posts.

TK2005

Will you shut up already with the "stop responding to my posts" nonsense? Just as you waste your time and posts with meaningless drivel about standing up for the new guys, I will use mine to respond to you.

ihatepotholes

im sorry if i offended ur by saying it, i thought u guys were close thats all. i just think some people r being wise to the new comers thats all. u r doin good

kcobean

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You don't sound like a wise*** at all. I just asked to hear what the manufacturer claims are about improved throttle response. Does the engine rev faster with this sytem? Does power come on some split second faster? I'm not raising the BS flag, I'd just like to know what "better throttle response" means and how they are substantiating that claim (or how you are, if it's not a claim that they manuf. has made.)

ihatepotholes

ok... u know when u go WOT, theres an almost a second delay before the car actually take off? well from my past experience with ARC and Mugen induction box, they "kinda" eliminate that delay. i just don't like the idea of open filter intake systems, although they give u the best gain on dynos

kcobean

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That initial lag is more a function of the plenum shape/size than the intake leading to it. Does ARC make any claims about this?

ihatepotholes

i can only tell u the experience that i have on rsx, i don't know how this will effect on the Z, but im sticking with em. another reason is that i don't wanna be like everyone else... no offense to other people, but i like my car to stand out a lil

kcobean

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That's reason enough. I wasn't trying to back you into the corner, I was just trying to understand the dynamics of the "better throttle response" claim. If it's really there, I'd love to see it quantified somehow (You'd think ARC would do that if it's true on this car).

ihatepotholes

not that i know of, but on type s it definitely has shorten the lag. a noticable improvement over CAI and SRI.