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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kolia
Lol !

No "Double Clutching" topic would be complete without ROAST's tach video and DavidV's farm equipment picture...

I double clutch when downshifting into second from say, fifth gear, while under hard braking. That gear better get in now or else I'll be collecting flora and gravel with the underbody...
Well Yeahhh---Flora, Gravel and the Fauna ( neighbors cow ) Its like these Bubbas round here in their Pick em up trucks---"Well my daddy never used his clutch shifting and by Golly I wont either" <<<<<<< spitting tobacco
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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when i was pushing it in my old celica i used to double clutch while i heel and toed it on downshifts. It was a challenge and a lot of fun. Plus that thing had one of the clunkiest gearboxes i've ever driven with almost completely worn out synchros (it was an 88' awd turbo).

I havn't pushed my Z that hard yet but i suspect i'll just heel and toe without the double clutch in order to shift faster. It's nice having a car with new synchros.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Well Yeahhh---Flora, Gravel and the Fauna ( neighbors cow ) Its like these Bubbas round here in their Pick em up trucks---"Well my daddy never used his clutch shifting and by Golly I wont either" <<<<<<< spitting tobacco
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Double clutching is for cars with no torque. You do it to get the rpm's up so you can accelerate faster at the price of a clutch, maybe flywheel too. You will need to double clutch in an S2, and pretty much all Hondas, when you get into a corner that just isn't suited to your gearing, you can either be bouncing redline, or bogging down out of "VTACH". But you're not supposed to press the clutch all the way in. That would put you in neutral, and that makes you slow down or spin out if you don't get off the clutch nice and easy. To double clutch, you need to ride the clutch, let it slip, but do not completely disengage.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kolia
Lol !

No "Double Clutching" topic would be complete without ROAST's tach video and DavidV's farm equipment picture...

I double clutch when downshifting into second from say, fifth gear, while under hard braking. That gear better get in now or else I'll be collecting flora and gravel with the underbody...
lol...

hey... did you happen to see that 100 sexiest car thread?
https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/217892-the-100-sexiest-cars-in-the-world.html

Your favorite double clutching car was ranked the #1 sexiest.

It was a slightly different model, but I thought of you when I saw it.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mavtais
Double clutching is for cars with no torque. You do it to get the rpm's up so you can accelerate faster at the price of a clutch, maybe flywheel too. You will need to double clutch in an S2, and pretty much all Hondas, when you get into a corner that just isn't suited to your gearing, you can either be bouncing redline, or bogging down out of "VTACH". But you're not supposed to press the clutch all the way in. That would put you in neutral, and that makes you slow down or spin out if you don't get off the clutch nice and easy. To double clutch, you need to ride the clutch, let it slip, but do not completely disengage.
Mmmh...

Don't know who to say that nicely.

Get some driving lessons. Double clutching is nowhere near what you wrote...

And maybe some basic physics on the relationship between torque,rpm, power and the role of a transmission in the mix.

In the mean time, I'll try to catch up to that no torque S2000 on the race track...
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by roast
lol...

hey... did you happen to see that 100 sexiest car thread?
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217892

Your favorite double clutching car was ranked the #1 sexiest.

It was a slightly different model, but I thought of you when I saw it.

Rock on !!!!

I have to get me one of those... Mmmh, Nano might be able to arrange that !

Here's the one I drove, it's a '72:



Double clutching all 4 gears, and plenty of planning for braking !
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Originally Posted by mavtais
Double clutching is for cars with no torque. You do it to get the rpm's up so you can accelerate faster at the price of a clutch, maybe flywheel too. You will need to double clutch in an S2, and pretty much all Hondas, when you get into a corner that just isn't suited to your gearing, you can either be bouncing redline, or bogging down out of "VTACH". But you're not supposed to press the clutch all the way in. That would put you in neutral, and that makes you slow down or spin out if you don't get off the clutch nice and easy. To double clutch, you need to ride the clutch, let it slip, but do not completely disengage.
This post made me cry.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mavtais
Double clutching is for cars with no torque. You do it to get the rpm's up so you can accelerate faster at the price of a clutch, maybe flywheel too. You will need to double clutch in an S2, and pretty much all Hondas, when you get into a corner that just isn't suited to your gearing, you can either be bouncing redline, or bogging down out of "VTACH". But you're not supposed to press the clutch all the way in. That would put you in neutral, and that makes you slow down or spin out if you don't get off the clutch nice and easy. To double clutch, you need to ride the clutch, let it slip, but do not completely disengage.

I like how he/she uses bold to emphasize the point. Hehe, applause for trying though.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kolia
Rock on !!!!

I have to get me one of those... Mmmh, Nano might be able to arrange that !

Here's the one I drove, it's a '72:



Double clutching all 4 gears, and plenty of planning for braking !
Thats like those cars in the parades where all the clowns jump out and run around the car then jump back in again
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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This thread is entertaining. I've been driving for decades..all stick shifts and the only things I've ever had to double clutch were old farm tractors and a 1940's truck. I think most every car from the 1950's on has had syncromesh in all gears except 1st and of course reverse. Guessing it was in the 1960's when they started putting sychromesh in 1st gears too. Save the sychromesh?? I've put 317,000 miles on my 93' Pathfinder and still have the original clutch and trasmission. I down-shift it all the time, but do match the rev's without thinking. I see no reason not to drive my Z the same way. Enjoy your manuals and use your ears to avoid wear on the clutch and trannies. If at times it doesn't go into reverse easily, try another gear position and then reverse again. Leave it parked in gear, not neutral.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Well said --Iv seen these threads,, more times,, and its always "Double Clutch" ? or my favorite --- Do I need to use the clutch? And it all comes from guys just starting off on manuals and listening to their surrounding "experts"

Drive!! have fun!! Dont make it into rocket science. Dont be afraid of blowing up Clutchs or engines---Its not going to happen. Just Drive and before u know it a manual will be like tieing ur shoe.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by I1DER
This thread is entertaining. I've been driving for decades..all stick shifts and the only things I've ever had to double clutch were old farm tractors and a 1940's truck.
Yup. Have not _needed_ to double clutch since driving my Dad's Dodge PowerWagon with a flathead 6.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by E***zzzzy
Well said --Iv seen these threads,, more times,, and its always "Double Clutch" ? or my favorite --- Do I need to use the clutch? And it all comes from guys just starting off on manuals and listening to their surrounding "experts"
Well for the beginners who are curious, YES you CAN shift a car without using the clutch. When you are driving and are about to shift, pull the gear lever out of gear and into neutral then slightly force/nudge the gear lever into the next gear as the engine rpms drop and when the rpm matches with the speed of the gear, CLUNK...it should slide right into gear without the need for the clutch. You can do this too on downshifts if you blip the throttle to get the revs up to where the gear needs to be. This technique, however, should ONLY be used for EMERGENCIES if for some reason your clutch is fried and not working and you just want to get home without calling a tow truck. I still recommend calling the tow truck because if you don't know what you're doing, you could seriously mess things up.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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^food for thought
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FormulaRX
Well for the beginners who are curious, YES you CAN shift a car without using the clutch. When you are driving and are about to shift, pull the gear lever out of gear and into neutral then slightly force/nudge the gear lever into the next gear as the engine rpms drop and when the rpm matches with the speed of the gear, CLUNK...it should slide right into gear without the need for the clutch. You can do this too on downshifts if you blip the throttle to get the revs up to where the gear needs to be. This technique, however, should ONLY be used for EMERGENCIES if for some reason your clutch is fried and not working and you just want to get home without calling a tow truck. I still recommend calling the tow truck because if you don't know what you're doing, you could seriously mess things up.

Well, if my clutch is fried, the car won't be going anywhere as no torque will be transmitted to the tranny...

Just messing with ya

Europeen rentals are very good for clutchless shift training! Lol
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mavtais
Double clutching is for cars with no torque. You do it to get the rpm's up so you can accelerate faster at the price of a clutch, maybe flywheel too. You will need to double clutch in an S2, and pretty much all Hondas, when you get into a corner that just isn't suited to your gearing, you can either be bouncing redline, or bogging down out of "VTACH". But you're not supposed to press the clutch all the way in. That would put you in neutral, and that makes you slow down or spin out if you don't get off the clutch nice and easy. To double clutch, you need to ride the clutch, let it slip, but do not completely disengage.
HOLY misinformation Batman!
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
HOLY misinformation Batman!
Yah ah---All this does is confuse the aleady confused
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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I swear,some of these people need to stop beleiving what they hear in movies... and you know what I'm talking about.

don't make **** up if you don't know the answer, it just further confuses people. and double clutching and rev matching are not the same thing. thanks for playing.
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