Hey guys quesiton here!!
drifting is a sport donuts i guess could be considered part of drifting sort of, since drifting exhibitions do that kind of stuff. As far as i know donuts arent a sport but perhaps ill start up the DRL, donut racing league...watch out drift kings!!!
donut
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...868a7c7126.htm
welcome to the sport of Drifting
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...44f4bd71f4.htm
donut
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...868a7c7126.htm
welcome to the sport of Drifting
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...44f4bd71f4.htm
Last edited by drivenCSZ; Mar 1, 2007 at 06:59 PM.
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Originally Posted by annahandres
Here's the difference:
Base Model w/ no LSD: Donut
LSD Equipped: Drift!
More technical than that though, a donut is usually just a very tight circle with little drift. You have to have the LSD to really drift because it allows the wheel on the outside to rotate faster than the wheel on the inside in drift situations. Thus it is Limited Slip, it lets you do this to drift, but is limited so that your wheels aren't going crazy all the time. If you don't have LSD, then you cannot really drift because your rear tires will be going the same speed, which is not ideal as a tight "donut" or rotational drift has a larger diameter track for the outside wheel and smaller diameter for the inside wheel (again think about the 2 sides of a krispy kreme). So without LSD you can't really drift and are forced to jam a donut as tight as you can and it will probably not be very smooth, as well as cause terrible wear on your tires if you do it alot.
Base Model w/ no LSD: Donut
LSD Equipped: Drift!
More technical than that though, a donut is usually just a very tight circle with little drift. You have to have the LSD to really drift because it allows the wheel on the outside to rotate faster than the wheel on the inside in drift situations. Thus it is Limited Slip, it lets you do this to drift, but is limited so that your wheels aren't going crazy all the time. If you don't have LSD, then you cannot really drift because your rear tires will be going the same speed, which is not ideal as a tight "donut" or rotational drift has a larger diameter track for the outside wheel and smaller diameter for the inside wheel (again think about the 2 sides of a krispy kreme). So without LSD you can't really drift and are forced to jam a donut as tight as you can and it will probably not be very smooth, as well as cause terrible wear on your tires if you do it alot.
Originally Posted by drivenCSZ
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg, im about to go postal on the the 350Z forum.
omg, im about to go postal on the the 350Z forum.
Originally Posted by camaro194
Yeah, its been pretty pathetic lately. I think the avg IQ has dropped considerably.
there's either too many used Z's out there or too many stupid people with money.
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Originally Posted by annahandres
I thought it allowed for difference in rotational velocity between the two wheels, while keeping torque on each wheel. That doesn't mean one wheel can spin at a different rate to some extent?
To avoid getting too technical..
The "limited" means it does allow for one wheel to spin slightly more then the other, because during a slow speed turn you would drag the tire if it didnt. When one wheel begins to spin alot more then the other(the difference allowed depends on the LSD)then the LSD kicks in and make both wheel spin equally.
When racing/drifting you need both wheels in check, else your car will behave oddly and pull unevenly. LSD a must in drifting, racing and offroad
With open diff (most cars)If you got a car stuck in mud, you'll notice the wheel with no traction spins freely, but the one wheel that has traction will not move at all. However if it had LSD both would spin and you would get out of the mud.
Made it simple, so to avoid a long post, after all your where mostly right just had a few things backwards
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Originally Posted by drivenCSZ
^^^cmon you totally got that from my cousin vinny..lol anyone remember that
posi-traction?
posi-traction?
BTW Anna posi-trac was just GM's term for LSD- same thing
not trying to dumb it down for you, know your smart, just the easiest way to explain it
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Originally Posted by Runinoffnos
I have a base model 06, when i try to do a donut or drift, the car wont let me why is that? I dont have the buttons for VDC or TCS, im wondering why it wont let the car do a donut, its pissing me off. someone please help haha./
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Hah thanks yeah I got it now I thought it was a little different cause of the whole design of drifting.. and I guess I was just confused about open.. it's not that it can't spin different speeds but it does without usefully dividing the torque so it's sucky.
Good movie btw haha.
Good movie btw haha.
yes, as mentioned above, with LSD (limited-slip differential), it basically does what it sounds: prevent the left and right side of the driving wheels to slip, spinning one side faster than the other. To simply put, LSD connects the right wheel and left wheel together, allowing the power from the drive shaft to equally spind both driving wheels. Without an LSD, the wheel with the least resistance -- such as one that's slipping -- will spind faster.
Not from the inside of the car man! You'll dirty the interior with the sugar crums.....
all this talk about dounuts making me hungry. Anyone care for a Z cruise to Crispycreme? lol
please tell me you didn't learn the technical stuff from the fast and furious? "granny shifting, not double clutching like you should - with 100 shot of nitrous, you're lucky you didn't blow the welds on that intake" lol
Originally Posted by HighwaySpeed
If I have a Base Model, I cannot have a donut? 
all this talk about dounuts making me hungry. Anyone care for a Z cruise to Crispycreme? lol
Originally Posted by annahandres
Hah thanks yeah I got it now I thought it was a little different cause of the whole design of drifting.. and I guess I was just confused about open.. it's not that it can't spin different speeds but it does without usefully dividing the torque so it's sucky.
Good movie btw haha.
Good movie btw haha.
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Originally Posted by annahandres
Hah thanks yeah I got it now I thought it was a little different cause of the whole design of drifting.. and I guess I was just confused about open.. it's not that it can't spin different speeds but it does without usefully dividing the torque so it's sucky.
Good movie btw haha.
Good movie btw haha.
Both wheel can spin together if they have the same traction, spin differently once things get tough
LSD will allow one wheel to spin more, but only for a very short time, when traction on one wheel is lost, it forces both wheels to spin evenly, giving the traction wheel its fair share of power
the speed matters, low speeds will not cause most LSD to lock, mostly to allow for better parking, low speed turns
If your racing and your weight was off sided from a turn, then you would lose power to the wheel that has the weight= bad. You need power to the wheel to maintain control, so when LSD kicks in everything is good.
Some race cars have LSD that are for the most part always lock
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Originally Posted by Tenac1ousZ
please tell me you didn't learn the technical stuff from the fast and furious? "granny shifting, not double clutching like you should - with 100 shot of nitrous, you're lucky you didn't blow the welds on that intake" lol
if I could find a girl as cool as Anna I'd be set
wanna move to Texas?