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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Lol I bet everybody would be tearing OP a new one if it were a dude. To the OP just look around at body and interior mods and find what you like-other people cant tell you what to do to your own car-then it wont be yours. Just look/shop around and do research until you find what you like.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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first mod should be 5% limo tints all around those windows.

Then post some more pics of you and the car and we will advice on the next mod.
i bet it will look exactly the same except with darker windows.. please dont go tint happy on the car. (tails, headlights, 5% limo tint all around even the windshield, license plate cover, rear view mirrors) i cant stand that.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 04:06 AM
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Ok... you had to be an Asian girl. And it's Friday...

Sorry, still noob





If only Hrae were here to see this... 19 yr old *female*, posting a thread like this

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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The Ops pics post if you look close at her picture switching back and forth. The pic of the Z near the Z emblem on the side is it me, or does it look like the glare says WTF???



and arent we men and women considered all equal now a days? Time to RIP the OP up!!! S`H`I`T we all got it at some point....

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bhk1004
the fastest 350z are all auto... well not the stock auto trannies but yah ^^ automatic doesnt affect anything for having performance mods. you can do any of the performance mods a manual can.
Sigh to those who make fun of this comment because they've obviously haven't been to the DRAG forum and looked under the "top 25 1/4 mile times" thread because if the did they would clearly see that the top 4 fastest times verified on this forum are by automatics.

Not trying to turn this into a auto vs manual thread but auto Z's are definitely worth modding for performance. No human with a standard 6spd can match the shift speed of this trans that has a valvebody upgrade.

And also the only reason why the stock 6MT puts up slightly better times is because its rearend is geared more for acceleration wereas the 5AT isn't.

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Venture
The Ops pics post if you look close at her picture switching back and forth. The pic of the Z near the Z emblem on the side is it me, or does it look like the glare says WTF???



and arent we men and women considered all equal now a days? Time to RIP the OP up!!! S`H`I`T we all got it at some point....

I thought so too!!!

ICE*
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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And also the only reason why the stock 6MT puts up slightly better times is because its rearend is geared more for acceleration wereas the 5AT isn't.
Not quite. The reason why the MT puts up better times is because a MT has less drivetrain loss than ANY AT in any make/model of car. In the 300 HP range the difference in power is large compared to the shift delay. So a good driver in a MT will always beat an identical AT car in this range.

But, when you are running 10's and better in the 1/4, a AT is going to beat a MT because the difference in power is small compared to the shift delay (what's 20 HP when you're talking about 600+?). It takes like .8 seconds to shift (pro shifting), so that's .8 seconds of no power being put out. If you have to shift 3 times, that's 2.4 seconds of no power. Starting to see the problem?
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by THe Emperor
Sigh to those who make fun of this comment because they've obviously haven't been to the DRAG forum and looked under the "top 25 1/4 mile times" thread because if the did they would clearly see that the top 4 fastest times verified on this forum are by automatics.

Not trying to turn this into a auto vs manual thread but auto Z's are definitely worth modding for performance. No human with a standard 6spd can match the shift speed of this trans that has a valvebody upgrade.

And also the only reason why the stock 6MT puts up slightly better times is because its rearend is geared more for acceleration wereas the 5AT isn't.
Talking stock vs stock. Of course you can mod the AT and make it faster...MTs can be modded too. Not knockin the Z's auto, its very good. I also agree that if your going for an all out drag car, a modded AT will be better. Most of us on here care about turning too. (at least me, or I would have bought a stang that responds to mods)

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteNoiz
Were talking stock vs stock. Of course you can mod the AT and make it faster...MTs can be modded too. Not knockin the Zs' auto, its very good.
Don't know of any modded MT's which are faster than the fastest modded AT's.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
Don't know of any modded MT's which are faster than the fastest modded AT's.
I edited my post for clarification the same time you posted this

I agree.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Not quite. The reason why the MT puts up better times is because a MT has less drivetrain loss than ANY AT in any make/model of car. In the 300 HP range the difference in power is large compared to the shift delay. So a good driver in a MT will always beat an identical AT car in this range.

But, when you are running 10's and better in the 1/4, a AT is going to beat a MT because the difference in power is small compared to the shift delay (what's 20 HP when you're talking about 600+?). It takes like .8 seconds to shift (pro shifting), so that's .8 seconds of no power being put out. If you have to shift 3 times, that's 2.4 seconds of no power. Starting to see the problem?

Ah...I agree about the drivetrain loss being greater with the AT hands down but I feel the quicker shifts would pretty much make up for the extra loss of power even with 300 HP. I just think if the bone stock 5at came with 6mt's rearend that the 1/4 numbers would be almost identical or possibly favor the 5at. Looking at the top 25 list the best 2 times for a auto z DE bone stock is 13.667 and 13.852 which is pretty competitive with the 6mt. I feel with the 6mt rearend and the quicker shifts that would be good for another 1-2 tenths or so knocked off. I'm not really trying to compare stock vs modded just speculating on how I think things would be if they both were produced with the same rear end gearing. But anyone please feel free to chime in, I'm just a kid who wants to learn but thats my take on it.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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face it that auto will always be a tad faster...dont want to get into why..you should just know!
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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bah
Take your pick.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Either way, 5at or 6mt, we all got 350Z's one of the greatest cars ever made. UNITE!
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WTX350Z
You shouldn't have mentioned being female...now every horny 35 year old married man w/ 18 kids is going to respond w/ "show me pics, and I'll give you knowledge"....or the sorts.
im 18.. i need to see the pics first
so i can get a better feel of what would suit you.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by THe Emperor
Ah...I agree about the drivetrain loss being greater with the AT hands down but I feel the quicker shifts would pretty much make up for the extra loss of power even with 300 HP. I just think if the bone stock 5at came with 6mt's rearend that the 1/4 numbers would be almost identical or possibly favor the 5at. Looking at the top 25 list the best 2 times for a auto z DE bone stock is 13.667 and 13.852 which is pretty competitive with the 6mt. I feel with the 6mt rearend and the quicker shifts that would be good for another 1-2 tenths or so knocked off. I'm not really trying to compare stock vs modded just speculating on how I think things would be if they both were produced with the same rear end gearing. But anyone please feel free to chime in, I'm just a kid who wants to learn but thats my take on it.
Go Google times for cars and you'll see that MT has the top times for any stock car (unless MT wasn't an option).

If you change the final drive you will also lower your top end and lower your fuel economy as well. The final drive of the AT is 3.357 and the MT is 3.538. Not much difference.

Also, you need more than 1 or 2 AT times before you can start assuming things. There are too many unknown variables, like the DA. Once you've been to the strip and raced enough, you will know what certain cars will and will not do. Every single stock AT I've raced that was the same car as mine, I pulled on them down the entire length of the track and I was MT. If the shifting alone was enough I wouldn't have pulled on them at all after the launch.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2007-Z
Go Google times for cars and you'll see that MT has the top times for any stock car (unless MT wasn't an option).

If you change the final drive you will also lower your top end and lower your fuel economy as well. The final drive of the AT is 3.357 and the MT is 3.538. Not much difference.

Also, you need more than 1 or 2 AT times before you can start assuming things. There are too many unknown variables, like the DA. Once you've been to the strip and raced enough, you will know what certain cars will and will not do. Every single stock AT I've raced that was the same car as mine, I pulled on them down the entire length of the track and I was MT. If the shifting alone was enough I wouldn't have pulled on them at all after the launch.
alot of people with thier autos dont manually shift thier cars. also you have to realize you have the faster motor being a 2007. cant say you are going to see that many of the new HR motors racing with you so i hope you not comparing with the old DE motor. people dont think there is much to the auto... but actually there are things people dont do.

alot of auto's just sit at the light and gun it.... your hsould brake launch the car which is will net much better 0-60 once you get it down. Also the auto seems to be able to rev into the rev limited in mid shift. I Can actually coax my car into 7100 rpms, which helps land fatter into my power band than someone that cant do it (this has been documented by a few of the earlier auto drivers)

like my car with intake exhaust i ran 13.7 with a 2.1 0-60 in my auto just for reference sake 04.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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for the final out come i say each state's Z owners who are part of this forum just get together one day and go all out. You've heard of "pinks all out" lets have a MY 350 Z all out! Stock Vs Stock MT/AT~and Modded, depending on whats available in each state as far as to put people head to head. That probably would yield some results that we can all debate about afterward. Driver error would come into play real big!!!! As far as a straight line i'd say AT takes the cake only if the MT driver does not shift to perfection, and even then it's close. I dont know about you, but going in a straight line was the 1st Fast and the Furious. Tokyo Drift is out now get with the program. No AT's catching me in the corners i can guaranty that!!
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bhk1004
alot of people with thier autos dont manually shift thier cars. also you have to realize you have the faster motor being a 2007. cant say you are going to see that many of the new HR motors racing with you so i hope you not comparing with the old DE motor. people dont think there is much to the auto... but actually there are things people dont do.

alot of auto's just sit at the light and gun it.... your hsould brake launch the car which is will net much better 0-60 once you get it down. Also the auto seems to be able to rev into the rev limited in mid shift. I Can actually coax my car into 7100 rpms, which helps land fatter into my power band than someone that cant do it (this has been documented by a few of the earlier auto drivers)

like my car with intake exhaust i ran 13.7 with a 2.1 0-60 in my auto just for reference sake 04.
I wasn't talking about racing AT's with my Z. I haven't had the chance to race any AT HR Z's yet. I was referring to other cars I've drag raced in the past. I've been drag racing for over 10 years and am speaking from that 10 years of experience. I mostly ran LS1 Camaros, which are more suited for drag racing from the factory than a Z is. Even with the Camaro, the top times are all held by MT, not AT. I ran a best of 12.823 while still stock, and I wasn't the #1 stock Camaro SS. I have never seen a bone stock AT Camaro break into the 12's yet.

Show me a timeslip from any stock AT that has beat the best time from a stock MT, any make/model. You can't.

EDIT: I don't want this to turn into an argument like it probably is. You are free to believe what you want, I've made my point. I'm done posting in this thread. Have a good day.

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2007-Z
I wasn't talking about racing AT's with my Z. I haven't had the chance to race any AT HR Z's yet. I was referring to other cars I've drag raced in the past. I've been drag racing for over 10 years and am speaking from that 10 years of experience. I mostly ran LS1 Camaros, which are more suited for drag racing from the factory than a Z is. Even with the Camaro, the top times are all held by MT, not AT. I ran a best of 12.823 while still stock, and I wasn't the #1 stock Camaro SS. I have never seen a bone stock AT Camaro break into the 12's yet.

Show me a timeslip from any stock AT that has beat the best time from a stock MT, any make/model. You can't.
absolutely i agree with what your saying with the past. alot of the autos were horrible in the past or only had 4 gears and were very long. The Z and G's on the other hand the auto's are extremely stout and we have very close gearing to manual is why I believe that the numbers are very close. Like the person above posted there was a stock time for the DE motor on the auto that is 13.6x against your 13.5. im just going to guess if there is any hardcore auto racers we should start seeing better times for the new HR motor. as there is already a 13.5 on the auto 09 g35 sedan from a magazine. (yes I know different motor different car, slightly bench racing =D)

im completely not arguing if either car is faster or not, as i honetsly wish i had a manual yet my Z was a gift... so i cannot compain. Just dont want people to look down on us Auto drivers thats all ^^
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