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Old 09-26-2003, 08:05 PM
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When I first broke in my Z one of my first hard pulls I chirped 3rd gear! I was very impressed. But, ever since then I cant! Is it because my clutch is more broken in now?

Can you guys chirp 3rd? If so, does it take more mods? Or is my car just one of the weaker ones.
Old 09-26-2003, 08:37 PM
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It's because your tires are now becoming more heat cycled and "sticky"...

A stock Z with stock RE040s cannot bark 3rd gear.
Old 09-26-2003, 08:37 PM
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Oh yeah...and VDC off.
Old 09-26-2003, 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by shil01
Oh yeah...and VDC off.
Still no difference... with VDC ON you can't bark 1 - 2.
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I can chirp 3rd with full pressure, not everywhere and not always though.

Stock 18" rays

VDC is almost always off first thing I do in the morning
Old 09-26-2003, 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Evil350z
Still no difference... with VDC ON you can't bark 1 - 2.
You mean 2-3 right? I chirp 1-2 all the time. VDC on or off. Its less with VDC on nonetheless...
Old 09-26-2003, 08:54 PM
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same here shiloO1 except i can also get third with VDC on or off... and my z is completely stock
Old 09-26-2003, 09:24 PM
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I'd say it probably depends a lot on the condition of your tires.
Old 09-26-2003, 09:27 PM
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I think it also has alot to do with your shift methods. IMO there is not enough power to do it "right" but I could easily take it up, to redline in 2nd, just hold the gas to the floor, and drop the clutch in third and theyd break traction no problem. but thats not using power, thats just using the momentum of the engine.

if you can chirp 3rd gear, Id reexamine your shifting tecniques. just my 2 cents.
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i have no problem chirping third if i want to do it.
Old 09-27-2003, 12:18 AM
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I can (18" Touring) and I don't have to ride the clutch. I shift ninja fast!
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No problems here, I can bark 3rd did it yesterday speed shifting at redline.
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Guys,

If you're popping third... its your shift technique. I'm driven plenty of track sessions where I'm running countless 2 - 3 shifts. NEVER do they bark. Technically you don't want it to bark... Barking DOES slow you down, if even in the most minute sense.

Thus again, if you are "barking" the 2-3... your technique with the clutch and gas is slightly off... you will prematurely wear out your clutch.
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Yes, I have the power to chirp third, but because of the strain it puts on the drivetrain, I try to avoid it.
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Originally posted by Evil350z
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If you're popping third... its your shift technique. I'm driven plenty of track sessions where I'm running countless 2 - 3 shifts. NEVER do they bark. Technically you don't want it to bark... Barking DOES slow you down, if even in the most minute sense.

Thus again, if you are "barking" the 2-3... your technique with the clutch and gas is slightly off... you will prematurely wear out your clutch.
I'm not popping third, but not sliding it either. In my case it's a very normal quick 2-3rd(not powershift) and it chirps almost alwatys now that temp is colder 55-60 range. This summer it was more rare, but on some surfaces I could get chirp in 3rd. I'm not overdoing it just to chip third, it just does it.
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Ive had my Z Touring 6 speed for a little over a week now...got it with 4K miles...anyway, this Ford F-150 was trying to race me the other day while rolling in first so i just kill it in every gear and when i shifted into 3rd the back end slid to the side a bit. Ive driven a stick for 14 years...i know how to use a clutch and i didnt do anything excessive.....just a fast, firm shift into 3rd and i slid a bit. VDC was ON.
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I chirped going into third only a few times. I was shifting pretty quickly and the road surface was fairly slick. On a hot day and shifting less aggressively, it won't chirp
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I'm not really chirping any gear. Obviously I'm taking it way too easy.
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I always chirp 2nd... Espicially when I get stuck in LA traffic, then I get an open lane and I quickly take advantage of it from 1st to 2nd..
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I can if I want to... but, WHY? Why would you want to do that? It's slower and no good...


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