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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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If there are speedlimits say the max in most states is 60 (for sake of argument) and the cops so vehemently enforce them, why do they bother making cars that can top 155mph. Or even if so why does'nt the government put limiters on them when they arrive in a state from the factory.
If they were truly concerned about safety issues and such, you think they'd take measures to dumb down all vehicles like that. Make it law to have them like it is to wear seat belts (only easier to mechanically enforce) think of the man power they'd save in doing so.
but we all know its about the F'ing money is'nt it.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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it's mostly about money

but it's also about freedoms

Many of us obey speed limits(not me), but also race our cars on tracks and drag strips legally exceeding speed limits on public roads
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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Oh please, give it up. You're right, 'the man' is holding you down and stealing all of your hard earned money with government conspiracies muhahahhahahahaha.

Get real man. Think about it. Who goes 155 in their car on the freeway? Not me, and if you do, we have a very efficient way of punishing you called civil litigation.

OK, so let's think this one through in a practical manner. We know people don't go 155 on the freeway. So how fast is two fast? 90? OK, so now we govern all cars down to 90. Fine. Now, how do we do it? Is it government controlled or do we force the car manufacturers to do it themselves, and if so how do we inspect? Guess what, we wind up paying for it anyway (either higher car prices or higher taxes, but probably both in this case). And now you know what? Not only are we paying for it BUT you can still get a speeding ticket AND you can still kill people. Fine. So, now what? Govern all cars at 60? OK, fine. Now what happens if, for whatever reason, you're going 60 and you need to go faster to avoid an accident? OOPS. You're screwed. And guess what? YOU CAN STILL KILL PEOPLE! Furthermore, the auto makers would never go for it because there is an appeal to getting a car that can go 155 even if you never ever get the car going that fast. So now we have lobbiests involved and they'll never go against the auto makers because they don't want to loose their positions.

So to sum up:

1) Nobody ever goes 155 and if they do there is a very effective method of punishing them (civil litigation). For further evidence of this notice that in most (if not all) states the penalty goes to a fealony for driving double the speed limit (or 20mph over in some states).

2) Where do you limit? 90? Well, if safety is the main issue you're still killing people so.....

3) Limit at the speed limit (which means that we need to have a nationalized speed limit which, I think, may be constitutionally illegal). Oh, and now you have the government dictating the maximum speed of your car...if you're so worried about the government taking your money why aren't you worried about the government dictating to you the maximum speed your car can go and taking your choice away on how fast your car could go? And now you get all kinds of problems with the auto manufacturers as well.

4) How to enforce it? Oh, and you still wind up paying for it anyway.

5) No matter what, you can still kill people.

Basically, speed limits and tickets are the most efficient way to enforce the speed limit and maintain safety. They maintain individual choice while punishing those who choose to make poor decisions and endanger the safety of others. Furthermore, the issue of the cars going 155 is a non-issue, what about cars going 90? 80? Remember, they do (or at least used to) govern cars.

So, not to flame or anything, why don't you try obeying the law and not getting a ticket or endangering others and quit whining about the government taking your 'F'ing money'.

Flame away folks
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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The majority of people I see on the roads either go A: too fast-way above 60 or B: too slow 55 and under.

How many times would you need to increase speeds when an accident happens, I'd have thought most people probably slam on the brakes, its instinctual. Although in my mind I always fantasise I'd know exactly what to do and power out to safety, I know it'd not happen in reality nor for most people honestly.

The law is the law supposedly, the limit is set if you go over your breaking it, no excuses. They must think its important to have entire police units out there with radar guns to enforce it, so why not go the whole way and slap limiters on vehicles that are so built into the cars its impossible to remove (for arguments sake) then they'd not have to worry about it and free up the man power.
I think eventually it'll go that way, if you saw the cars in minority report they basically drive themselves in the urban citys. I think eventually we'll lose that right of freedom in the name of safety (or terrorism probably) just random stream of thoughts here
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