I always thought modification detracted from the sale price because the mainstream owner doesn't want them and the owner who wants mods wants to do it themselves....

And cars aren't houses. No matter how much money you dump into one, you aren't getting it back.

 

Satin black will def be harder to sell.

I'd pay 14k for it as I'd want to repaint it

 

Some very valid points coming up, all of which I understand. I think whoever looks at buying this car is someone who hasn't owned a Z in the past. The satin custom paint is deffinatley an adder to the value, it's something that is rare on this type of car. The maintenence is the same as every other car out there with a glossy clear.

If someone would offer me 15K or less because they wanted to repaint it, I'd laugh and tell them to buy a different Z. You don't buy this kind of car in a color you don't like only to repaint it. Just because you have a bad opinion about the paint doesn't make it worth less is anyway. I know tons of guys that want Volks, the 09 headlights, some type of body kit, etc, these are spendy additions...all included with this car..

Either way, I appreciate the opinions and responses, they are all valuable. I think I am going to list the car for 17,000 and see what offers I get.

 

To the first bold statement; no it isn't.

To the second one; rare doesn't mean increase in value.

Replacing my rotors with pie pans would probably rare, but it would not make the car more valuable.

EDIT: If you want to buy cheap cars, work on them, then sell them for profit you need to restore cars, not modify them. No one is going to pay more for that car just because you like the paint job and think it is super cool. Sorry.

 

Well I don't claim to say that every rare paint scheme increases value, but if you buy a car that is 8 years old with new paint, its worth more than an 8 year old car with 8 year old paint. The satin may not be your taste or first choice, but it is for someone out there.

Well that's a nice way to put it, but I didn't buy a cheap car, and do these modifications to make a profit. I was not born yesterday, I've owned this car for over 4 years, the mods are a result of my taste.

 

+1 it lowers it substantially. putting it back to stock as much as possible is the best way to get a decent amount back

 

I think the car looks amazing. A friend of mine used to have the same front bumper on his old Z before someone wrecked it. And I like your style and taste with the paint. I love Satin Black paint jobs, and I rarely see them. That's an awesome looking car man. I love it.

 

The Batmobile!

 

A new paint job is not going to make its money back, though. You seem to be refusing to accept that your car is worth KBB because it has new paint and mods. It just won't happen. You MIGHT be able to find someone who is willing to pay more for it, but if you're looking for a quick sell, you can't raise the price just because you put mods on it and painted it.

In the mass market, you would want to remove your mods and put OEM parts back on in order to sell it fast. And the paint job is going to put off 90% of buyers. I'm not saying someone won't buy it, I'm just saying you're making it harder on yourself.

 

Thanks! I love it too, hate the fact that I am considering to sell it...

 

I know exactly what your saying, and somewhat agree. Im not in a hurry to get rid of it but the spring time is the only time to list a Z for sale in MN. I don't/can't drive this car in the winter, as anyone from MN couldn't.

I realize the money I invested wont be recouped, I just dont wanna give it away for book value if you understand what im saying. I could sell the car for 14K w/o the wheels, then turn around and sell them for 2500-3000K w/ tires seeing that they will be brand new.

 

I have another option for a color scheme for my Volks; satin barrel, carbon fiber center...the carbon fiber would be applied through a dipping process. What do you think?

 

If you still have the OEM parts, you could always put them back on and part out the mods to get your money back. Unless you sold the OEM stuff to pay for the mods like many people do.

Either way, good luck selling it. It's definitely a unique car.

 

you keep mentioning things are relatively new.. if you just added these new upgrades to your vehicle what makes you want to sell it.. if is a personal issue, i understand you not sharing.

 

Trust me after everything I have done to this car.. I would keep it if that were possible. Unexpected baby on the way, I can't justify keeping and I also could use the money for a home purchase.

 

Is the Carfax clean?

I'm gonna have to lean towards the car won't get much more than $14k, even with the mods.

 

hmm...less you get a moron to buy you're Z a true buyer wouldn't pay anything for the mods you did. That really has no bearing on the worth of the car. Not like any of that is insured ya know. Like the saying goes "there is an *** for every seat" Find the right buyer unless they find you and i'd say around 14-17 would be the max.

 

I understand your attachment to the car and how that factors into your price - you did a lot of work, you'd expect to be compensated. Unfortunately, regardless of the amount of time you spend arguing that you think it's worth 'X', people will (generally) only want to buy it at 'Y'. It's nothing personal or something that you can fix, it's a concept that applies to everyone attempting to sell a modded vehicle. It's a buyers market, and buyers will (again, generally) not pay substantially more for what you consider good taste.

Just something else to think about - if you're not providing the original parts, these are more or less break even addons. For example, your JWT Popcharger is about $110 new. While I can't find the price for an OEM intake online, I know that Nissan asked me $435 to R&R when they saw that I had a G35 intake installed on my car when I bought it. Headlights, wheels, exhaust - same thing.

I don't mean to come in and bash on you or your thread, just giving some additional input as far as answering your question, even if it's not exactly what you wanted to hear. For an '03 with that many miles and your mods, I would expect somewhere between 13,900-16,000. Sell the Volks, the spacer, the headlights. Buy used stock items from part outs on the forum. After all is said and done, you should be in the ball park of 17k.

Also, and I know you don't want to hear this, that paint job hurts you a lot more than you'd want to think. I love it, I think satin black/vinyl is a great color, especially with polished wheels. But I feel it'd be safe to assume that for the number of people that like that particular color on the Z, it should also be said that only a percentage of them are in the market for a new vehicle, even less for a Z specifically. I don't think that it would be a good idea to factor that into your pricing.

Good luck with sale, though. You have a great lookin' car there.

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tldr: Sell your stuff, then sell your car.

 

also if I'm not mistaken, if the paint code in the VIN number doesn't match what's on the car, wouldn't that hurt it, too???

 

The VIN number doesn't state the paint code or color of the car, the paint code is printed on a tag in the door jam seperately. The satin paint will hurt the value to 90% of the people out there, anyone who is into cars and is looking for something different or custom should see the added value. Either way book is about 14Kl, this car will not sell for less than that.

When it comes time to list it, and if the car sells, I'll post on here what the car sold for. Right now Im just focused on getting these Volks done.