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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Here's the deal with lowering it. If you get coilovers or lowering springs, the springs give a set adjustment, where as with coilovers you can keep adjusting it yourself to your pleasing.

If you are lowering the car do atleast 1 inch. That gives it a semi-slammed look(since the car sits really low already) and reduces almost all wheel gap. If you do only 1 inch or roughly around 1 inch. You will not need a camber kit in the front because the oem one is adjustable, but you may need it in the back.

If you go more than 1 inch, you will need a camber kit for both front and back.

Now that being said, technically you doing need the camber kits, if you don't mind your tires wearing out faster than normal.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Arvin89
Here's the deal with lowering it. If you get coilovers or lowering springs, the springs give a set adjustment, where as with coilovers you can keep adjusting it yourself to your pleasing.

If you are lowering the car do atleast 1 inch. That gives it a semi-slammed look(since the car sits really low already) and reduces almost all wheel gap. If you do only 1 inch or roughly around 1 inch. You will not need a camber kit in the front because the oem one is adjustable, but you may need it in the back.

If you go more than 1 inch, you will need a camber kit for both front and back.

Now that being said, technically you doing need the camber kits, if you don't mind your tires wearing out faster than normal.
Oh ok. That clears it up a bit. I'm not real sure how low I'm going to go. I just want to eliminate wheel gap. But if it's lower than an inch I'll get the camber kits. Still doesn't seem too bad. 1. Wheels 2. Coilovers 3. Camber kits (possibly)
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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Oh ok. That clears it up a bit. I'm not real sure how low I'm going to go. I just want to eliminate wheel gap. But if it's lower than an inch I'll get the camber kits. Still doesn't seem too bad. 1. Wheels 2. Coilovers 3. Camber kits (possibly)


Depending on how much tread you have left on your stock rims, you could go the coilover & exhaust route now, for the look/sound you want. then save up for the camber kit, then get your nice new wheel/tire combo

That way you have the tire wear outta the way before you go to taller more expensive tires

Just my humble opinion though

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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyNot?Z
Depending on how much tread you have left on your stock rims, you could go the coilover & exhaust route now, for the look/sound you want. then save up for the camber kit, then get your nice new wheel/tire combo

That way you have the tire wear outta the way before you go to taller more expensive tires

Just my humble opinion though
He has a very very good point there, and good reasoning too.
Plus if you go coilovers you can adjust the ride height again after you buy the rims anyways.

PLUS. Your lucky you have nice stock wheels. My 04's were butt ugly. If you keep them clean, they look pretty good. You could also just put some spacers in for now to make them a bit more aggressive?
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Arvin89
Here's the deal with lowering it. If you get coilovers or lowering springs, the springs give a set adjustment, where as with coilovers you can keep adjusting it yourself to your pleasing.

If you are lowering the car do atleast 1 inch. That gives it a semi-slammed look(since the car sits really low already) and reduces almost all wheel gap. If you do only 1 inch or roughly around 1 inch. You will not need a camber kit in the front because the oem one is adjustable, but you may need it in the back.

If you go more than 1 inch, you will need a camber kit for both front and back.

Now that being said, technically you doing need the camber kits, if you don't mind your tires wearing out faster than normal.
leave the tech questions for people with knowledge. Go to the suspension section and start reading.

There is no front factory camber adjustment. Lowering 1 inch throws you out of spec, many people don't care and run the extra camber. You get about - 1.5 with a 1 inch drop, perfectly acceptable , hell Im running -2.7 front.

The rear usually needs a camber kit. Mostly just for toe, stock camber range is -1.1 to -2.1, all Z's are different but most can get away with about 1 inch drop without needing aftermarket parts, some cars more, some less.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
leave the tech questions for people with knowledge. Go to the suspension section and start reading.

There is no front factory camber adjustment. Lowering 1 inch throws you out of spec, many people don't care and run the extra camber. You get about - 1.5 with a 1 inch drop, perfectly acceptable , hell Im running -2.7 front.

The rear usually needs a camber kit. Mostly just for toe, stock camber range is -1.1 to -2.1, all Z's are different but most can get away with about 1 inch drop without needing aftermarket parts, some cars more, some less.
Well I'd have to say the people with knowledge would have to be Nissan since they built the car, and also told me the front is slightly adjustable when they lowered mine.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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I'd much rather have the new wheels instead lowering on the stock ones. My stock wheels are in perfect shape, but I'm not a big fan of them. Plus I probably wouldnt need the spacers for the new wheels. Am I in the right state of thinking that the wheels won't look terrible before it's lowered?
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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I had new wheels on my car for a year before i lowered it. And it looked good.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Arvin89
Well I'd have to say the people with knowledge would have to be Nissan since they built the car, and also told me the front is slightly adjustable when they lowered mine.
you brought your car to Nissan in Japan to have it lowered? If so they probably also would have told you to only use Nismo springs, and that lowering any more screws up the roll center. They should have also told you the rear has plenty of adjustment stock.

Or did you just talk to some dealer monkeys ?
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
you brought your car to Nissan in Japan to have it lowered? If so they probably also would have told you to only use Nismo springs, and that lowering any more screws up the roll center. They should have also told you the rear has plenty of adjustment stock.

Or did you just talk to some dealer monkeys ?
Is it the rear that has the adjustment? If so then my bad. I thought they said it was the front.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Arvin89
Is it the rear that has the adjustment? If so then my bad. I thought they said it was the front.
Its the rear, its amaizing how much you can learn when you do all the work on the car yourself, not to mention being a mechanic.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Soooooooooooo.... we can build bunkbeds?


Changed my mind---OP, get rims-thats what you want. Spend your money on what you want. Not what others suggest.
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Originally Posted by WhyNot?Z
Soooooooooooo.... we can build bunkbeds?


Changed my mind---OP, get rims-thats what you want. Spend your money on what you want. Not what others suggest.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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It all depends if your going for looks or performance.

Looks- go with rims and springs.
Performance- coilovers, front/ rear camber and toe arms/ toe bolts.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scrantonz33
It all depends if your going for looks or performance.

Looks- go with rims and springs.
Performance- coilovers, front/ rear camber and toe arms/ toe bolts.
Actually a nice set of wheels with nice tires will do more for performance than any other mod you listed.
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I agree to an extent, if he goes way wide and a good offset but if he wants to track his car at all its important to have strong dampers and adjustability. but everyday driving i agree rims are better.
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Originally Posted by WhyNot?Z
Soooooooooooo.... we can build bunkbeds?


Changed my mind---OP, get rims-thats what you want. Spend your money on what you want. Not what others suggest.
I want a lot of things.

Of course I understand what you're saying. I'm just trying to get some opinions.

So far it seems like wheels take the cake. I'm glad I found out about the camber kits. I think I'll just buy the wheels, get them wrapped up, and roll with them for a little while until I get coils. It's just a pain to see my Z with little tucked in wheels.

Would anyone happen to have pics of 19" wheels on stock suspension?
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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I would bet if you looked in the wheel section , you may find a couple thousand pics.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
I would bet if you looked in the wheel section , you may find a couple thousand pics.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Its the rear, its amaizing how much you can learn when you do all the work on the car yourself, not to mention being a mechanic.
I couldnt do the front at home. Anyways, thanks for the correction. And OP, as per terrasmak has said, Id say get the wheels, lower it, get the front camber if your going below 1inch and you can neglect the rear camber for now.
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