e46 m3 vers 350z touring 6 spd
09-07-2002, 09:31 AM
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e46 m3 vers 350z touring 6 spd
help me, some kid in my school got a new white m3, and my black and orange touring doesnt come till probably a few weeks later. i know the z has many times as better looking, thats why i bought it, but if any of you have driven both cars, which has better performance? thanks
09-07-2002, 05:51 PM
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Both cars offer outstanding performance, but I think it's safe to say that all else being equal the M3 will slightly outperform the Z...which doesn't come as a surprise considering it costs about $20K more. Then again, if you're willing to drop that much coin, go for a Z6 Vette and smoke your bimmer buddy.
However, the Z has them both beat in the head-turning department.
However, the Z has them both beat in the head-turning department.
09-07-2002, 06:39 PM
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Well, flip side.
For one, on this forum you are going to get extremely biased opinions from folks who just dropped a large piece of their spendable income on one of the cars you question.
For two, different cars. Big price difference and even bigger daily use difference. One is a two seater pure sports car, the other is a german luxury sedan... with some mojo.
Three, both being stock the E46 will chew up a Z. No offense to the guys here, but a good idea of what you could expect is to lose by 4-5 car lengths against a m3 in the quarter, with a decent driver behind each wheel. Thats not huge, and consider the pricetags. M3's are well over 50k and Z's sit around 27k.
Lastly, the Z looks and "headturning" will fade in 4-6 months when the cars begin to get into mass-produced circulation. The M3 looks will always present more of a "status" symbol IMO, but then again I might be biased, but thats not why I bought the car anyway.
But yes, if you want to "beat" your friend in a race and have 50k to toss around, then get a Z06.
Lastly, wtf are kids in school getting handed 35-50g cars for? Welcome to Jersey!
For one, on this forum you are going to get extremely biased opinions from folks who just dropped a large piece of their spendable income on one of the cars you question.
For two, different cars. Big price difference and even bigger daily use difference. One is a two seater pure sports car, the other is a german luxury sedan... with some mojo.
Three, both being stock the E46 will chew up a Z. No offense to the guys here, but a good idea of what you could expect is to lose by 4-5 car lengths against a m3 in the quarter, with a decent driver behind each wheel. Thats not huge, and consider the pricetags. M3's are well over 50k and Z's sit around 27k.
Lastly, the Z looks and "headturning" will fade in 4-6 months when the cars begin to get into mass-produced circulation. The M3 looks will always present more of a "status" symbol IMO, but then again I might be biased, but thats not why I bought the car anyway.
But yes, if you want to "beat" your friend in a race and have 50k to toss around, then get a Z06.
Lastly, wtf are kids in school getting handed 35-50g cars for? Welcome to Jersey!
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09-08-2002, 09:00 AM
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Aren't there more inportant things in the world than two high school kids dropping 50K on cars so they can say theirs is faster than the other kids. I say save your hard earned money (or your parents money) and buy the Z
(I cant believe I just said that). As soon as you drive that brand new M3 off the lot it will start to depreciate and in about 5 years that car will be worth less than half as much as what you bought it for.
(I cant believe I just said that). As soon as you drive that brand new M3 off the lot it will start to depreciate and in about 5 years that car will be worth less than half as much as what you bought it for.
09-08-2002, 06:38 PM
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The resale value of a well kept and maintained M3 is much higher that 50% depreciation. I have seen '97 M3's in excellent condition and low mileage go for 28K to 32K or about 60% of the cost new (back in '97). I don't believe that will be the case with the 350Z simply because it does not have the reputation that BMW does for excellence.
But I have to agree with Baven, wtf is up with some parents. They are totally abdicating their responsibility to their kids by providing instance gratification.
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But I have to agree with Baven, wtf is up with some parents. They are totally abdicating their responsibility to their kids by providing instance gratification.
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09-08-2002, 07:00 PM
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OOops! I guess I forgot to mention,
I've been living on my own since 17
bought <two> s2000's myself
bought <one> e46 m3 myself
Director of South Floridas Dining Guide and now working at Honda.
I asked my mother for 3 years, 15, 16, and 17 for a decent drivable car that I can atleast pay her back for and the answer was always no. So I went out and did it myself.
Resale of the m3;
FYI I bought the e46 m3 Cab. as a Demo at Holman Lauderdale Imports <Here in Fort Lauderdale, FL> at $54k it had 3750miles on it, I purchased it in 02/2002 and "Traded it" and got $53k for it in 06/2002. Keep in mind I traded it, I didn't even sell it privately.
For another s2000
bought <two> s2000's myself
bought <one> e46 m3 myself
Director of South Floridas Dining Guide and now working at Honda.
I asked my mother for 3 years, 15, 16, and 17 for a decent drivable car that I can atleast pay her back for and the answer was always no. So I went out and did it myself.
Resale of the m3;
FYI I bought the e46 m3 Cab. as a Demo at Holman Lauderdale Imports <Here in Fort Lauderdale, FL> at $54k it had 3750miles on it, I purchased it in 02/2002 and "Traded it" and got $53k for it in 06/2002. Keep in mind I traded it, I didn't even sell it privately.
For another s2000
09-08-2002, 07:25 PM
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Re: OOops! I guess I forgot to mention,
Originally posted by kl0n0pin
I've been living on my own since 17
bought <two> s2000's myself
bought <one> e46 m3 myself
Director of South Floridas Dining Guide and now working at Honda.
I asked my mother for 3 years, 15, 16, and 17 for a decent drivable car that I can atleast pay her back for and the answer was always no. So I went out and did it myself.
Resale of the m3;
FYI I bought the e46 m3 Cab. as a Demo at Holman Lauderdale Imports <Here in Fort Lauderdale, FL> at $54k it had 3750miles on it, I purchased it in 02/2002 and "Traded it" and got $53k for it in 06/2002. Keep in mind I traded it, I didn't even sell it privately.
For another s2000
I've been living on my own since 17
bought <two> s2000's myself
bought <one> e46 m3 myself
Director of South Floridas Dining Guide and now working at Honda.
I asked my mother for 3 years, 15, 16, and 17 for a decent drivable car that I can atleast pay her back for and the answer was always no. So I went out and did it myself.
Resale of the m3;
FYI I bought the e46 m3 Cab. as a Demo at Holman Lauderdale Imports <Here in Fort Lauderdale, FL> at $54k it had 3750miles on it, I purchased it in 02/2002 and "Traded it" and got $53k for it in 06/2002. Keep in mind I traded it, I didn't even sell it privately.
For another s2000
Did you go to college?
09-08-2002, 08:48 PM
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C'mon people. We don't really need all this kid bashing here. This site seems to have an innate dislike for young kids that drive nice cars. I, for one, don't understand it. If they can afford it, or if their parents can, who cares. This is really getting ridiculous.
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09-08-2002, 09:14 PM
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hey. We gotta stop getting pissed at these kids coming in here. If this isnt a silly joke, then this isnt the first well-to-do teen with car dilemmas.
dragonblz is just looking for some advice, and in the world of internet, you are gonna find all types of people. Whether or not they are child prodigies, internet tycoons, drug dealers, or children with billionaire parents, it isnt our business. We also cant go around and criticizing the way some parents are raising their children.
What we should do, is try to convey the idea that being given lavish presents dimishes your ability to enjoy them as much as if you worked for them. Thats it, no more. Just as long as dragonballz99 know this..then I say:
...get the Z and watch the M3 kid get jealous. Trust me, cuz he cant get one, and the Z is a true sports car. I am willing to bet that all your friends will "like" you car more.
dragonblz is just looking for some advice, and in the world of internet, you are gonna find all types of people. Whether or not they are child prodigies, internet tycoons, drug dealers, or children with billionaire parents, it isnt our business. We also cant go around and criticizing the way some parents are raising their children.
What we should do, is try to convey the idea that being given lavish presents dimishes your ability to enjoy them as much as if you worked for them. Thats it, no more. Just as long as dragonballz99 know this..then I say:
...get the Z and watch the M3 kid get jealous. Trust me, cuz he cant get one, and the Z is a true sports car. I am willing to bet that all your friends will "like" you car more.
09-09-2002, 03:47 AM
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Hey, its fine if you are "fortunate" and are given a nice car, what roasts me is these kids who are given nice cars see their friends being given a nicer car and then they WANT a even nicer car yet, they expect to be handed everything.
Then they all have the obligatory "I am a mature teen" line and "You would do it too". I lay you dimes to donuts that most of them are BS and the few that are not are because of f'd up parents who dont know how to raise a kid.
Sure is a good way to learn responsibility and earning things in life ;p
Then they all have the obligatory "I am a mature teen" line and "You would do it too". I lay you dimes to donuts that most of them are BS and the few that are not are because of f'd up parents who dont know how to raise a kid.
Sure is a good way to learn responsibility and earning things in life ;p
09-09-2002, 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by baven
Hey, its fine if you are "fortunate" and are given a nice car, what roasts me is these kids who are given nice cars see their friends being given a nicer car and then they WANT a even nicer car yet, they expect to be handed everything.
Then they all have the obligatory "I am a mature teen" line and "You would do it too". I lay you dimes to donuts that most of them are BS and the few that are not are because of f'd up parents who dont know how to raise a kid.
Sure is a good way to learn responsibility and earning things in life ;p
Hey, its fine if you are "fortunate" and are given a nice car, what roasts me is these kids who are given nice cars see their friends being given a nicer car and then they WANT a even nicer car yet, they expect to be handed everything.
Then they all have the obligatory "I am a mature teen" line and "You would do it too". I lay you dimes to donuts that most of them are BS and the few that are not are because of f'd up parents who dont know how to raise a kid.
Sure is a good way to learn responsibility and earning things in life ;p
09-09-2002, 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by baven
Hey, its fine if you are "fortunate" and are given a nice car, what roasts me is these kids who are given nice cars see their friends being given a nicer car and then they WANT a even nicer car yet, they expect to be handed everything.
Then they all have the obligatory "I am a mature teen" line and "You would do it too". I lay you dimes to donuts that most of them are BS and the few that are not are because of f'd up parents who dont know how to raise a kid.
Sure is a good way to learn responsibility and earning things in life ;p
Hey, its fine if you are "fortunate" and are given a nice car, what roasts me is these kids who are given nice cars see their friends being given a nicer car and then they WANT a even nicer car yet, they expect to be handed everything.
Then they all have the obligatory "I am a mature teen" line and "You would do it too". I lay you dimes to donuts that most of them are BS and the few that are not are because of f'd up parents who dont know how to raise a kid.
Sure is a good way to learn responsibility and earning things in life ;p
In all reality...maybe buying ANY car for a teenager is being a "f*** up parent." I mean, I walked through the snow, uphill (both ways), in below freezing temperature, and with no pants on to get to school...and I LIKED it
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Originally posted by VQracer
no need for that ****. Maybe some of us are more fortunate than others. There is nothing wrong with that.
no need for that ****. Maybe some of us are more fortunate than others. There is nothing wrong with that.
What car do you drive? besides your dad's 350z?
I was always called the rich kid in school and everyone thought I had everything handed to me. Sad truth is that I could've paid for my cars myself, my dad just wanted to give me something he was never given when he was a kid and would'nt have been able to give me 5yrs before I turned 16.
I'm 21 now and I have spent over $8k on mods for my celica in a matter of 4-5months.
The Z is next...