All Season Tires?????
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All Season Tires?????
hello, where can i get All Season Tires.....????
what do you suggest????
i read in the Forum that the OEM Tires (oe40)
are really bad in wet weather.......
i'm planning on using All Season Tires in the
Summer, Fall and Spring,,,,,
and Blizzaks in the NorthEast Winters....
(may invest on a beater)
what do you suggest????
i read in the Forum that the OEM Tires (oe40)
are really bad in wet weather.......
i'm planning on using All Season Tires in the
Summer, Fall and Spring,,,,,
and Blizzaks in the NorthEast Winters....
(may invest on a beater)
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That is exactly what I plan on doing. The stock Potenzas are worthless in the cold on dry pavement alone, and Ive never tried snow. The tire rack has some high performance all seasons that you may be interested in.
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value sumitomo htr+ z rated with warranty
sumitomo htr+ at sears Z rated
40K warranty, 360treadwear
very good in snow
front 235/45/17 $130 at sears
back 245/45/17 $135 at sears
also recommended by chicago350z member
40K warranty, 360treadwear
very good in snow
front 235/45/17 $130 at sears
back 245/45/17 $135 at sears
also recommended by chicago350z member
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I got the Sumitomo HTR Z II on my BMW 328is in 225/45/ZR17 and they have been terrific in the rain and snow we have had lately. I had the factory Continentals on previously and these blow them away. For $400 mounted and balanced you cant go wrong with the price. I had Michelin Pilots on my previous car (3000gt vr-4) and they didnt compare in the wet weather to me. Dry handling was comparable. If you arent going to be going to the track and want a good all around all season tire I would recommend the Sumitomo's. Tire rack has em for a good price and most of the reviews on there from customers are favorable.
On that note if anyone is looking for a '98 328is PM me so I can get my 350Z sooner. When I get it, I will probably switch to the Sumitomo's unless the RE40's really impress me in the wet weather.
Edit: As the above poster noted Sears sells the Sumitomo's and in my hometown at least they will price match anyone including Tire Rack and other online places. You can save $15-20 a tire just printing out the price from Tire Rack and taking it in. Paid for my mounting and balancing.
On that note if anyone is looking for a '98 328is PM me so I can get my 350Z sooner. When I get it, I will probably switch to the Sumitomo's unless the RE40's really impress me in the wet weather.
Edit: As the above poster noted Sears sells the Sumitomo's and in my hometown at least they will price match anyone including Tire Rack and other online places. You can save $15-20 a tire just printing out the price from Tire Rack and taking it in. Paid for my mounting and balancing.
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Definitely use tire rack.com as a reference. Be sure to check the reviews on any tires you are considering. Being you are in Buffalo you get more snow than most of us so I would pay particular attention to the comments from people in the North East and Mid West. You may want to consider snow tires on the rear and all weather on the front if this is your daily driver and have to contend with snow on a regular basis. Good Luck.
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are they All-Season Tires.....
are those Sumitomo tires All-season tires.....
thats what i'm looking for.....
my Z Roadster is a Northeast daily driver.....
i'm really not going to the "track races"
just cruising around to work and errands
all types......
so am looking for all season tires that are
fairly well when it rains outside.....
again, i'll use the All-Season tires for
spring, fall, and summer.....
and Blizzaks in the Winters......
thanks.....
p.s. budget wise, are the Sumitomo tires
worth the investment........
i'm not looking into buying All-Season
tires for 1000 dollars,,,,,,
i'll only spend that much on Blizzaks
thats what i'm looking for.....
my Z Roadster is a Northeast daily driver.....
i'm really not going to the "track races"
just cruising around to work and errands
all types......
so am looking for all season tires that are
fairly well when it rains outside.....
again, i'll use the All-Season tires for
spring, fall, and summer.....
and Blizzaks in the Winters......
thanks.....
p.s. budget wise, are the Sumitomo tires
worth the investment........
i'm not looking into buying All-Season
tires for 1000 dollars,,,,,,
i'll only spend that much on Blizzaks
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Originally posted by GRIMNOIR
The stock Potenzas are worthless in the cold on dry pavement alone, and Ive never tried snow.
The stock Potenzas are worthless in the cold on dry pavement alone, and Ive never tried snow.
If you drive sensibly, it's perfectly fine in cold weather. If you drive sensibly, it's perfectfully fine in the rain. If you drive stupid in the cold or in the rain, you will be listed on page 3 in the newspaper. It does not go well in the snow, however, as you might expect, but don't be afraid of this car in the cold and rain. It performs very well indeed.
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On the Tire Rack right now the 225/45/wr17 are $95 and the 245/45/wr17 are $99 on the Sumitomo HTR Z II. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....model=HTR+Z+II
I use these year round and have been very satisfied for the 3k or so miles I have so far. I cant help you on winter tires since we dont get much snow here. The ice we have had the last couple weeks went by with no problems though. They are a good all around A/S tire. Under $400 for a set before shipping is a damn good price too. $700ish for Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for comparison on the Tire Rack.
I use these year round and have been very satisfied for the 3k or so miles I have so far. I cant help you on winter tires since we dont get much snow here. The ice we have had the last couple weeks went by with no problems though. They are a good all around A/S tire. Under $400 for a set before shipping is a damn good price too. $700ish for Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for comparison on the Tire Rack.
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Originally posted by WayneTN
Nothing personal, but I respectfully disagree. It was comments like this that made me wonder if I could even drive the car in the rain and in cold weather. What I have found, after driving this car for over a year on the OEM tires, is that its performance is not much different from any other high HP, RWD car. It performs very well in everything but snow and ice unless you get stupid.
If you drive sensibly, it's perfectly fine in cold weather. If you drive sensibly, it's perfectfully fine in the rain. If you drive stupid in the cold or in the rain, you will be listed on page 3 in the newspaper. It does not go well in the snow, however, as you might expect, but don't be afraid of this car in the cold and rain. It performs very well indeed.
WayneTN
Nothing personal, but I respectfully disagree. It was comments like this that made me wonder if I could even drive the car in the rain and in cold weather. What I have found, after driving this car for over a year on the OEM tires, is that its performance is not much different from any other high HP, RWD car. It performs very well in everything but snow and ice unless you get stupid.
If you drive sensibly, it's perfectly fine in cold weather. If you drive sensibly, it's perfectfully fine in the rain. If you drive stupid in the cold or in the rain, you will be listed on page 3 in the newspaper. It does not go well in the snow, however, as you might expect, but don't be afraid of this car in the cold and rain. It performs very well indeed.
WayneTN
Im glad that you happy with them. My guess is that there are'nt alot of hills in TN. Here in NY, there are ALOT of hills and Im getting tired of accelerating, and spinning wheel on dry ground. If I drive my other car the same way, I get traction. Believe me, Im not leadfooting it either. Its just a little abnormal to me that a car should spin its tires at every stop in the cold weather.
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you gave the Wrong tire sizes from TireRack?????
someone said its 225/45 and 245/45
the Z roadster i believe comes with
225/50 and 245/50
am i wrong?
the Z roadster i believe comes with
225/50 and 245/50
am i wrong?
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Originally posted by GRIMNOIR
My guess is that there are'nt alot of hills in TN.
My guess is that there are'nt alot of hills in TN.
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Originally posted by ares
if you have blizzaks for the winter, why bother with allseason? any of the standard compounds like S03 or proxies will be much better in the spring, summer, and fall. and then take em off when it starts to freeze.
if you have blizzaks for the winter, why bother with allseason? any of the standard compounds like S03 or proxies will be much better in the spring, summer, and fall. and then take em off when it starts to freeze.
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I have Michelin Pilot A/S tires from Tirerack. $200 each for 17s. Its good in the snow,dry,wet. A little pricy but with 400thread wear,quietness.I think its worth it. Well the 14.0 I got was with the A/S! Dry traction is better then OEMs.
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I myself an looking at getting a 350 and this is my main concern. how does the traction control due in rain and snow (wet weather)? And the SA (sterring assist) or whatever its called? Just seeing how well the electronics handle these problems. But i do agree tires can play a good role. I myself use blizzacks on my spec v and it made a big diffrence but then again i am FWD car but blizzacks are if not #1 in wet weater.
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Originally posted by WayneTN
Nothing personal, but I respectfully disagree. It was comments like this that made me wonder if I could even drive the car in the rain and in cold weather. What I have found, after driving this car for over a year on the OEM tires, is that its performance is not much different from any other high HP, RWD car. It performs very well in everything but snow and ice unless you get stupid.
If you drive sensibly, it's perfectly fine in cold weather. If you drive sensibly, it's perfectfully fine in the rain. If you drive stupid in the cold or in the rain, you will be listed on page 3 in the newspaper. It does not go well in the snow, however, as you might expect, but don't be afraid of this car in the cold and rain. It performs very well indeed.
WayneTN
Nothing personal, but I respectfully disagree. It was comments like this that made me wonder if I could even drive the car in the rain and in cold weather. What I have found, after driving this car for over a year on the OEM tires, is that its performance is not much different from any other high HP, RWD car. It performs very well in everything but snow and ice unless you get stupid.
If you drive sensibly, it's perfectly fine in cold weather. If you drive sensibly, it's perfectfully fine in the rain. If you drive stupid in the cold or in the rain, you will be listed on page 3 in the newspaper. It does not go well in the snow, however, as you might expect, but don't be afraid of this car in the cold and rain. It performs very well indeed.
WayneTN
the Z is not the only car to use RE040s by the way. many high end cars use them like the lexus SC430, a 60-70k car.
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My Z is, for the most part, a daily driver all 4 seasons. I've been driving it all winter with stock tires, except on days when it is snowing and drive my camry. As soon as the main drags are clear and the neighborhood streets are relatively clear, I'm back in the Z, it usually takes about two days. You do have to start slow without wheel spin, use 2nd and avoid getting into tight spots or snow. If you spin the wheels, the stock tires will not find traction and you will slide sideways. The biggest problem is limiting wheel spin. I've had no problems with the stock tires in rain or cold. You probably can get them spinnig easier than you would all weather tires. They're designed for dry weather traction. The Sumitomos seem like a great alternative and I'll check them out. Wish the pilot A/S s were cheaper.
I have TCS but no VDC or SA? These devices will not conrol or drive the car for you and you shouldn't rely on them to handle problems. Try to drive so that you don't need them.
I have TCS but no VDC or SA? These devices will not conrol or drive the car for you and you shouldn't rely on them to handle problems. Try to drive so that you don't need them.