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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 06:11 AM
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Has anyone had this problem,... I hear a loud rattling noise when I start my Z in the morning, or when she has sat for a few hours,... but this doesn't happen when the car is warm

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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 08:26 AM
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Is the rattling noise coming from the car or from somewhere else? Like maybe three houses over?

Unless you post a coherent help ticket that shows you've put at least a modicum of effort in trying to figure out what part of the car the rattle is coming from, then that's going to be about the best help you can expect.

Year / Mileage / Mods / Condition of Vehicle (rust, etc.)?????
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 08:57 AM
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Is the rattling noise coming from the car or from somewhere else? Like maybe three houses over?

Unless you post a coherent help ticket that shows you've put at least a modicum of effort in trying to figure out what part of the car the rattle is coming from, then that's going to be about the best help you can expect.

Year / Mileage / Mods / Condition of Vehicle (rust, etc.)?????
2003,... no rust,... I've had the timing chain replaced,... replaced all gaskets, water pump, oil pump,... I'd appreciate a sincere reply instead of sarcasm and smart lowball responses
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:23 AM
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From the information you've provided I was going to say that it could be your timing chain, as the chain tensioner is oil pressure dependent.. It's a pretty common cold start noise with the VQ engines.. Does it sound like it's coming from the timing chain area, and diminishing after 2-3 seconds?
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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Yes,... I have also replaced the tensioners
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ebib1969
I'd appreciate a sincere reply instead of sarcasm and smart lowball responses
Well look, it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to ask a sensible question. It's like going to a doctor and saying, "Something hurts. What's wrong with me?"

Have someone start the car when it's cold and listen for the location the rattle is coming from (under the hood, under the car, wherever.) Then report back. Any answer you get until then is going to be an uninformed one and simple conjecture.

Some basic (obvious) checking can improve this thread by leaps and bounds.

Until then...
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OK. Then I'm going to guess that it's just timing chain slap until the tensioner becomes pressurized with motor oil.. What weight and type of oil are you running? Did this noise just start presenting itself after you've replaced all those parts? Were your replacement parts OEM NISSAN or aftermarket?
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lol Lemme just.. slip on outta' here now.
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Could be a loose exhaust shield. Could be a guy with maracas hanging out in the shadows.
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 10:17 AM
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Duuuu!!!,... I've already done that,... and we've chained the timing chain and tensioners,... also replaced oil and water pump,... and it's still doing it,... so I thought I would reach out at this forum for help,... ***
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Are you talking to Zak or me?
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i think the asshat op is hearing the marbles rattle around in his head
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2003,... no rust,... I've had the timing chain replaced,... replaced all gaskets, water pump, oil pump,... I'd appreciate a sincere reply instead of sarcasm and smart lowball responses
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Has anyone solved any problem if they said I heard a rattling noise when car starts? I guess this doesn't happen because the question is warm.

Any forum requires a sincere question instead of vague and smart lowball questions
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 02:38 PM
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Either everything listed above or throw out bearing.

As soon as I changed my bad tensioner my throw out went out which sounded exactly the same as the loose tensioner.
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebib1969
Has anyone had this problem,... I hear a loud rattling noise when I start my Z in the morning, or when she has sat for a few hours,... but this doesn't happen when the car is warm
It's most likely an exhaust heat shield. It goes away right after the car is started, yes?

If so, tons of Zs do this. They're loose when they're cold and as soon as it heats up/expands, no more rattle. Mine has done this since I've owned it.
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Yeah.. only problem with that is that he said the noise is coming from the timing chain area.
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HOMiEZ
Has anyone solved any problem if they said I heard a rattling noise when car starts? I guess this doesn't happen because the question is warm.

Any forum requires a sincere question instead of vague and smart lowball questions
Wait. Huh? You're using some kinda' word voodoo, aren't you? ...
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Atreyu'z 350
Yeah.. only problem with that is that he said the noise is coming from the timing chain area.
Where?

Others speculated timing chain and OP said he changed timing chain but did not identify the locale. Also who's to say the sound is coming from that far forward? The specific rattling sound I hear from the cabin sounds like it's from the front until I knelt down next to the front and under the fore edge of the door.

Not saying you're wrong cuz yes, as you said, the tensioner is yet another area it could be. But at this point, just guessing and offering up another possibility.

And, I asked the Z shop about it when I first got the car. "Status quo, not unusual."

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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 04:17 PM
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Yea to further explain my post. The rattle of the bearing is only when the clutch isn’t engaged. It also guns or buzzes when I’m neutral.

So if it’s on idle or when cold only probably not the bearing.
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