car and driver ....backfires 350z
10-02-2002, 09:53 AM
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car and driver ....backfires 350z
man what some said about the 350z in the backfire section. These people are high or somthing. 0-60 in 7 seconds. It is porky, wrx is better, 350 should be faster. unlike the 240z the 350 isnt a breath of fresh air? I know these are letters from readers but why did c/d decide to only print these. ?
Im sure they got a lot more loving this car.
Im sure they got a lot more loving this car.
10-02-2002, 10:18 AM
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Because C/D are a bunch of pansies who don't know how to really drive, so when they can't make a car perform like it should, they print the few complaint letters they get about the car instead of all the raves so they don't look like idiots.
Just my humble opinion.
Just my humble opinion.
10-02-2002, 08:49 PM
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If I recall, there article was generally extremely positive about the Z. My guess is they are printing these in order to generate controversy and give people something to talk about. I mean, every *sane* person knows the Z kicks butt, so they need to do something to stir up some fun an get the people arguing 
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10-02-2002, 09:02 PM
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pisses me off BIG TIME
It really gets me mad. I am for sure cancelling my order. What gets me really mad is that even after one of the readers complained it weighs to much, C and D DIDN'T even acknowledge they misreported the weight of the car!
See my post on Z car forum:
http://www.zcar.com/forums/read.php?f=5&i=67420&t=67420
titled: Car and Driver = crap.
RaymanZ
See my post on Z car forum:
http://www.zcar.com/forums/read.php?f=5&i=67420&t=67420
titled: Car and Driver = crap.
RaymanZ
10-03-2002, 04:07 AM
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Independent thought rules
Just got this month's C&D, and can't believe the letters to the editor. Using a tactic like that is hitting below the belt, as they reserve the right to publish only the letters they want. (Does anyone really think the negative letters outpaced the postive letters???)
C&D has their head firmly up their ***. Yet in all of this, it gives me reason to pause and remember how grateful I am that I don't need their help to make an educated decision on which car to buy.
Actually, now that I think about it... the original article was quite positive. Maybe it's just a shame that C&D has legions of jerk-off readers who have Z envy...
C&D has their head firmly up their ***. Yet in all of this, it gives me reason to pause and remember how grateful I am that I don't need their help to make an educated decision on which car to buy.
Actually, now that I think about it... the original article was quite positive. Maybe it's just a shame that C&D has legions of jerk-off readers who have Z envy...
10-03-2002, 04:33 AM
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I agree completely with the sentiment that the Z should be faster. After putting 20-30 miles on a friend's 350, I have no intention of buying one until I hear the a new version with 50-100 extra horses is out.
Sorry. It's a nice car and all... but it's no successor to the 300ZXTT.
Sorry. It's a nice car and all... but it's no successor to the 300ZXTT.
10-03-2002, 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by AdamLotz (Z FIEND)
I agree completely with the sentiment that the Z should be faster. After putting 20-30 miles on a friend's 350, I have no intention of buying one until I hear the a new version with 50-100 extra horses is out.
Sorry. It's a nice car and all... but it's no successor to the 300ZXTT.
I agree completely with the sentiment that the Z should be faster. After putting 20-30 miles on a friend's 350, I have no intention of buying one until I hear the a new version with 50-100 extra horses is out.
Sorry. It's a nice car and all... but it's no successor to the 300ZXTT.
Find a car on the market for 30K that can compete with the 350's looks, performance, and mechanical quality... Let me know what you find. And don't say S2K. I've driven one, they feel like Preludes with 2500 extra rev's but less torque.
10-03-2002, 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by Phi-1002-
It's not supposed to be a 300ZXTT. It's modeled after the original 240Z, not the techno-crazed 300 that no one could afford. The 350Z costs substantially less than the 300ZXTT at a time when money is worth substantially less than it was when the 300ZXTT was being sold. The numbers show that you don't need turbocharging to be quick. Besides, I hate turbos, very unpredictable.
Find a car on the market for 30K that can compete with the 350's looks, performance, and mechanical quality... Let me know what you find. And don't say S2K. I've driven one, they feel like Preludes with 2500 extra rev's but less torque.
It's not supposed to be a 300ZXTT. It's modeled after the original 240Z, not the techno-crazed 300 that no one could afford. The 350Z costs substantially less than the 300ZXTT at a time when money is worth substantially less than it was when the 300ZXTT was being sold. The numbers show that you don't need turbocharging to be quick. Besides, I hate turbos, very unpredictable.
Find a car on the market for 30K that can compete with the 350's looks, performance, and mechanical quality... Let me know what you find. And don't say S2K. I've driven one, they feel like Preludes with 2500 extra rev's but less torque.
10-03-2002, 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Grey Matter
I agree. Nothing else in the 30k range can compete with the 350Z.
I agree. Nothing else in the 30k range can compete with the 350Z.
I wouldn't give those C&D letters a second thought. It's obvious they've never had any sort of exposure w/ the 350 in person.
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10-03-2002, 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Michael-Dallas
Did someone say... 2003 Mustang Cobra?
Michael.
Did someone say... 2003 Mustang Cobra?
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10-03-2002, 07:12 AM
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Overall, does the Cobra really have great performance qualities? I know it has a monster motor. But does it handle and brake well? Also, how much does it weigh? I'm not a Ford guy.
10-03-2002, 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Michael-Dallas
Did someone say... 2003 Mustang Cobra?
I wouldn't give those C&D letters a second thought. It's obvious they've never had any sort of exposure w/ the 350 in person.
Michael.
Did someone say... 2003 Mustang Cobra?
I wouldn't give those C&D letters a second thought. It's obvious they've never had any sort of exposure w/ the 350 in person.
Michael.
10-03-2002, 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by Zboy
He did say performance, looks AND quality. Sorry but Cobra does not have the looks and as for quality...well its a Ford.
He did say performance, looks AND quality. Sorry but Cobra does not have the looks and as for quality...well its a Ford.
Performance-wise, the Cobra has the numbers and potential on paper, but I'm not going to say anything until I see a Cobra and a 350 (preferably mine) on a roadcourse.
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10-03-2002, 08:03 AM
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all the 2003's are sold so i'm patiently waiting... but in the meantime i've been researching/looking so i kind of know the alternatives.... (main consideration being performance)
2003 nissan 350z
2002 honda s2000
2000 bmw m-coupe
2000 porsche boxster
2000 corvette z06(?)
1999 porsche boxster s
next year:
new subaru wrx sti
new mitsubishi evo viii
possilby:
new supra (but, will probably be more expensive)
new rx-8 (and if that goes well the rx-7)
lotus elise (which may become domestic in a year or two)
ummmm,... am i missing anything?
in any case, things to think about. i love the 'z' though. which is why i'm here
2003 nissan 350z
2002 honda s2000
2000 bmw m-coupe
2000 porsche boxster
2000 corvette z06(?)
1999 porsche boxster s
next year:
new subaru wrx sti
new mitsubishi evo viii
possilby:
new supra (but, will probably be more expensive)
new rx-8 (and if that goes well the rx-7)
lotus elise (which may become domestic in a year or two)
ummmm,... am i missing anything?
in any case, things to think about. i love the 'z' though. which is why i'm here