0.92 g's on the skid pad
#1
0.92 g's on the skid pad
The November Road & Track has test of the G35 coupe and it pulled 0.92 lateral g's on the skid pad. This number was considerably higher than that of the Z so I began to look for differences since the platforms are similar. The G35 was wearing Michelin Pilot Sports (same tire sizes as the Z Track model). Given that tires are often a major factor in lateral grip, these might be a desirable replacement when the stock rubber wears out.
I have to believe the Z is capable of more than .88 g's without changes to the suspension.
I have to believe the Z is capable of more than .88 g's without changes to the suspension.
#4
sooooooo, do the pole positions make a big difference?!?!?!
What the heck, you gotsta post a review!!!
I have the 17" and I feel like I slide alot when taking aggressive turns...is this the nature of the 17" or is it just my imagination. The tires do not squeel when I feel this sliding, so maybe its just side wall flex. any commnets people?!
What the heck, you gotsta post a review!!!
I have the 17" and I feel like I slide alot when taking aggressive turns...is this the nature of the 17" or is it just my imagination. The tires do not squeel when I feel this sliding, so maybe its just side wall flex. any commnets people?!
#5
my official S03 review.
here is the best way to describe them....
S03's and the road are like the 2 sides of velcro...
S03's and the road are like the 2 sides of velcro...
Originally posted by rpgonzalez
sooooooo, do the pole positions make a big difference?!?!?!
What the heck, you gotsta post a review!!!
I have the 17" and I feel like I slide alot when taking aggressive turns...is this the nature of the 17" or is it just my imagination. The tires do not squeel when I feel this sliding, so maybe its just side wall flex. any commnets people?!
sooooooo, do the pole positions make a big difference?!?!?!
What the heck, you gotsta post a review!!!
I have the 17" and I feel like I slide alot when taking aggressive turns...is this the nature of the 17" or is it just my imagination. The tires do not squeel when I feel this sliding, so maybe its just side wall flex. any commnets people?!
#6
Re: my official S03 review.
Originally posted by SKiDaZZLe
here is the best way to describe them....
S03's and the road are like the 2 sides of velcro...
here is the best way to describe them....
S03's and the road are like the 2 sides of velcro...
Did you notice any change in the ride quality itself...softer or harder then the 040's ?
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#8
Re: my official S03 review.
Originally posted by SKiDaZZLe
here is the best way to describe them....
S03's and the road are like the 2 sides of velcro...
here is the best way to describe them....
S03's and the road are like the 2 sides of velcro...
I have to agree. I've tried a lot of tires and the S02 just plain rocked. I've never owned a set of the newer S03 model, but I'm assuming they are at least as good as the S02.
#9
jreiter, the S03 have actually been known to have worst dry performance than the S02 but 03s have been known to have much better wet performance. I noticed the S03 was much harder than the S02 and S02PP, but the wet traction on the S03 is a tottally different world. That from my expeirances on my friends stang, tirerack actually gave the S03 better rating but after talking to reps from bridgestone they also said the 02 was a better dry grip tire, but if you want an overall performer for the street where you will encounter rain and such to sacrifice the slight bit of dry grip and to go with the S03. and actually bridgestone in japan actually doesn't even show the S03 as performace tire, they show the S02 and some tire we don't get here in the US. Man I need to get another set of bridgestones, I'm on some crap fulda tires right now and the word grip shouldn't even but put in the description of these tires.
Hope this helps some of you guys, If your also looking for another sticky tire for the dry the Toyo T1-S is great too.
edit: just finished some grammatic errors and made my first sentence a little clearer.
Karim
Hope this helps some of you guys, If your also looking for another sticky tire for the dry the Toyo T1-S is great too.
edit: just finished some grammatic errors and made my first sentence a little clearer.
Karim
Last edited by Darkwing; 10-03-2002 at 11:40 PM.
#11
Originally posted by Darkwing
jreiter, the S03 have actually been known to have worst dry performance over the S02 but much better wet performance.
jreiter, the S03 have actually been known to have worst dry performance over the S02 but much better wet performance.
The S03s in the wet, feel like my old Yokohamas in the DRY in my opinion.
#12
also for those on the RE040's I highly reccomend switching to the S03 for a street tire. The difference will be huge. The S03 is a much stiffer tire and grip is a whole world better than the 040s, we put them on a friends car and swear to never go back.
Karim
Karim
#13
Originally posted by Jason
Almost everybody I know whith an S2000 (S02 tires stock) has spun their car in the rain. Two of those people have totalled their S2000s in the process.
The S03s in the wet, feel like my old Yokohamas in the DRY in my opinion.
Almost everybody I know whith an S2000 (S02 tires stock) has spun their car in the rain. Two of those people have totalled their S2000s in the process.
The S03s in the wet, feel like my old Yokohamas in the DRY in my opinion.
fyi everyone I know with an s2k has spun it in the wet on the stock tires, it's not even funny how many times i've been in the car when it happened too, fun experiance though, I drove a friends s2k in the rain and i actually had a blast breaking it loose in a wet parking lot on those tires.
#14
Bridgestone S02 - Great Dry traction - decent wet traction
Bridgestone S02 Pole Positions - good/great dry traction - good wet traction (not S02 grip in the dry or S03 wet grip but a good mix of both)
Bridgestone S03 Pole Positions - decent dry traction - great wet traction
ratings used:
great - best in performance on the market today (in top 3 tires on market)
good - not the absolute best but above most in their group
decent - it will get you by but don't count on it for spirited driving or to get you out of trouble
These are my own person ratings based off of many testing sessions on each tire.
Bridgestone S02 Pole Positions - good/great dry traction - good wet traction (not S02 grip in the dry or S03 wet grip but a good mix of both)
Bridgestone S03 Pole Positions - decent dry traction - great wet traction
ratings used:
great - best in performance on the market today (in top 3 tires on market)
good - not the absolute best but above most in their group
decent - it will get you by but don't count on it for spirited driving or to get you out of trouble
These are my own person ratings based off of many testing sessions on each tire.
#15
Originally posted by Brad4rdHay
The track model comes with the Bridgestone RE040s, not the michelins.
The track model comes with the Bridgestone RE040s, not the michelins.
#16
Ah, thanks for the info on the S02 and S03 differences. I had the S02PP tires on my car (until I wore them out... they are quite soft), and they were indeed great in the dry. I get a little wimpy in the rain, so I guess I never pushed them very hard on those days. (I've always been hesitant to really push my cars in the wet unless I'm in a safe, closed area.)
#17
Re: 0.92 g's on the skid pad
Originally posted by TCL
The November Road & Track has test of the G35 coupe and it pulled 0.92 lateral g's on the skid pad. This number was considerably higher than that of the Z so I began to look for differences since the platforms are similar. The G35 was wearing Michelin Pilot Sports (same tire sizes as the Z Track model). Given that tires are often a major factor in lateral grip, these might be a desirable replacement when the stock rubber wears out.
I have to believe the Z is capable of more than .88 g's without changes to the suspension.
The November Road & Track has test of the G35 coupe and it pulled 0.92 lateral g's on the skid pad. This number was considerably higher than that of the Z so I began to look for differences since the platforms are similar. The G35 was wearing Michelin Pilot Sports (same tire sizes as the Z Track model). Given that tires are often a major factor in lateral grip, these might be a desirable replacement when the stock rubber wears out.
I have to believe the Z is capable of more than .88 g's without changes to the suspension.
Not a factory supplied compound.
#19
Wheelbase is 8" longer, which the article implies helps the handling, it calls the G35 neutral and the Z twitchy. It's not a 'feel good" article for Z owners
However a seperate 1 column story reports on the Z33Gt Racer Nissan's $75,000, ready to race car. 2420lbs, 450bhp. 3.6liter, I freaking can't wait to see this thing on the track.
A number of folks have mentioned Toyo's but they don't make a size to fit the Z!?
Cheers,
pacco
However a seperate 1 column story reports on the Z33Gt Racer Nissan's $75,000, ready to race car. 2420lbs, 450bhp. 3.6liter, I freaking can't wait to see this thing on the track.
A number of folks have mentioned Toyo's but they don't make a size to fit the Z!?
Cheers,
pacco
#20
I had the S02-PPs on my last car, and they did stick like glue.
When I first got my Z, the RE040s were quite slippery. After scuffing them up a bit they started to grip a lot more. I am still learning the limits and behaviours of the car, so I can't say how much better the S02-PPs are. When I get up to the level of 4 wheel drifts, then I can tell you.
When I first got my Z, the RE040s were quite slippery. After scuffing them up a bit they started to grip a lot more. I am still learning the limits and behaviours of the car, so I can't say how much better the S02-PPs are. When I get up to the level of 4 wheel drifts, then I can tell you.