5AT with Paddleshift?
Hey all:
Just wondering, I've got an idea I've been kicking around - but I need a volunteer. I think I could find a way to fabricate paddleshift for you 5AT guys, but I have a 6MT so I havnt been able to test anything out.
So what I would need:
Someone who lives in the NYC area.
Someone adventurous enough to go through with it, and preferrable someone mechanically inclined (two heads are better than one).
Someone who drives a Z/G
Someone who wants a paddleshift Z/G, and is willing to pay for the supplies necessary to make it happen (the work and design aspects would be free for this person, though I can't pay for the parts needed)
So anyone interested? Anyone think there would be any interest in this at all? Questions/Comments...
Just wondering, I've got an idea I've been kicking around - but I need a volunteer. I think I could find a way to fabricate paddleshift for you 5AT guys, but I have a 6MT so I havnt been able to test anything out.
So what I would need:
Someone who lives in the NYC area.
Someone adventurous enough to go through with it, and preferrable someone mechanically inclined (two heads are better than one).
Someone who drives a Z/G
Someone who wants a paddleshift Z/G, and is willing to pay for the supplies necessary to make it happen (the work and design aspects would be free for this person, though I can't pay for the parts needed)So anyone interested? Anyone think there would be any interest in this at all? Questions/Comments...
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that would be an interseting undertaking!
how would you go about even starting this?
do they sell some type of aftermarket adapter kits for cars?
the button shifters on my IS300 are pretty cool to play around with
how would you go about even starting this?
do they sell some type of aftermarket adapter kits for cars?
the button shifters on my IS300 are pretty cool to play around with
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Thanks Shep, I'll let ya know if I get to try this out!
Without being able to test this out, I have a theory of how I could do this.
The manumatic mode is electrically operated, meaning that for example, when you shift from 1st to 2nd in manumatic mode, somewhere a circuit is being closed. IE - a "button" is being pressed.
The idea behind my paddle shift would be to simply relocate the "button". Its obviously not as simple as it sounds, but thats the general idea.
All I would need of the test subject is to take a look at the 5at manumatic gate, (if thats where the actuator switch is). This may become complicated if the switch is somewhere INSIDE the A/T, but I doubt this. Im pretty sure the shifter is just contacting sensors when you move it up or down, so if I could tap into those sensor circuits and relocate the switch (which would become the paddle), then paddleshifting will be possible.
As far as parts, once the idea is proven I will see if there are any aftermarket companies that make this type of product (there probably are, because someone has to make em for rally/race cars)
Ehh so we'll see what happens... still lookin for a brave soul in the NYC area...
Originally posted by ElBombastico
ohhh, paddle shift would be sweet. and how would this work?
ohhh, paddle shift would be sweet. and how would this work?
Without being able to test this out, I have a theory of how I could do this.
The manumatic mode is electrically operated, meaning that for example, when you shift from 1st to 2nd in manumatic mode, somewhere a circuit is being closed. IE - a "button" is being pressed.
The idea behind my paddle shift would be to simply relocate the "button". Its obviously not as simple as it sounds, but thats the general idea.
All I would need of the test subject is to take a look at the 5at manumatic gate, (if thats where the actuator switch is). This may become complicated if the switch is somewhere INSIDE the A/T, but I doubt this. Im pretty sure the shifter is just contacting sensors when you move it up or down, so if I could tap into those sensor circuits and relocate the switch (which would become the paddle), then paddleshifting will be possible.
As far as parts, once the idea is proven I will see if there are any aftermarket companies that make this type of product (there probably are, because someone has to make em for rally/race cars)
Ehh so we'll see what happens... still lookin for a brave soul in the NYC area...
Originally posted by ElBombastico
hmmm, not a bad idea. could you incorporate reverse into the paddleshift? would you also need a need steering column or a new wheel to bolt the paddles to?
hmmm, not a bad idea. could you incorporate reverse into the paddleshift? would you also need a need steering column or a new wheel to bolt the paddles to?
I would like to mount em behind the two spokes of the wheel that are at 3 and 9 degrees when the wheel is centered.
But I dont wanna give too much away. If you're interested in this, PM me. If I spill all of my ideas out, then no one will be able to say they were the first 5AT Z with paddleshift
The paddle shift idea sounds great I wish I had them on the 350Z. The Ferrari paddles are the best ones out there. The buttons from Porsches and Toyotas are OK, but not as fun or as quick at the Ferrari type paddles. Sounds like a good idea Nissan should look into. Heck even the RX-8 has a paddle, but it only 4 spd.
Last edited by Zcarboy; Sep 7, 2004 at 07:47 PM.
Do you think you could add the paddle shifters and still have the the gear changes happen as fast as shifting from the stick? That's something that would be great. N74DV did the steering wheel shifter thing for the 5AT before but, he said it slowed down his shifts to the point that he had to pre-plan when he wanted to shift instead of just slapping the shifter and having it happen.
Here's a website that does paddle mods for BMWs. You might be able to get some ideas from them.
http://www.bmw-paddleshift-retro.com/
Good luck Jet, keep us informed on your progress
Here's a website that does paddle mods for BMWs. You might be able to get some ideas from them.
http://www.bmw-paddleshift-retro.com/
Good luck Jet, keep us informed on your progress
here's the thread on the paddle shifter that was done ...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....t=paddle+shift
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....t=paddle+shift
Originally posted by Moroccan_Mole
here's the thread on the paddle shifter that was done ...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....t=paddle+shift
here's the thread on the paddle shifter that was done ...
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....t=paddle+shift
DV had a nice approach to it, and I am glad to find out that the part I was worried would be hard (locating the microswitches) was actually easy.
I can assure you that if I am able to run the wires my way, there would be the same amount of delay that currently exists from the normal mode of shifting.
I can also find a way to either use the shift lever only, or use the paddles only, or shut both off completely (a la 3-way switch). However I don't think it would be possible to have the paddles and the shifter work simultaneously (without computerized intervention anyways).
I can assure you that if I am able to run the wires my way, there would be the same amount of delay that currently exists from the normal mode of shifting.
I can also find a way to either use the shift lever only, or use the paddles only, or shut both off completely (a la 3-way switch). However I don't think it would be possible to have the paddles and the shifter work simultaneously (without computerized intervention anyways).
Originally posted by Jetpilot718
DV had a nice approach to it, and I am glad to find out that the part I was worried would be hard (locating the microswitches) was actually easy.
I can assure you that if I am able to run the wires my way, there would be the same amount of delay that currently exists from the normal mode of shifting.
I can also find a way to either use the shift lever only, or use the paddles only, or shut both off completely (a la 3-way switch). However I don't think it would be possible to have the paddles and the shifter work simultaneously (without computerized intervention anyways).
DV had a nice approach to it, and I am glad to find out that the part I was worried would be hard (locating the microswitches) was actually easy.
I can assure you that if I am able to run the wires my way, there would be the same amount of delay that currently exists from the normal mode of shifting.
I can also find a way to either use the shift lever only, or use the paddles only, or shut both off completely (a la 3-way switch). However I don't think it would be possible to have the paddles and the shifter work simultaneously (without computerized intervention anyways).


