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Old 01-29-2006 | 10:30 AM
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That is quite enough out of you. You got cut short because you were making useless speculations and false statements that were in no way conducive to the information sharing that this form is intended to be used for. If you don’t have anything useful to post about the actual subject of the thread then please do not post at all. My statement above is valid and correct in every way. If you have not used the product that I gave a link to above; then you have no grounds to comment on its usability or functionality which is exactly what you did. The guidelines of this forum are clear, perhaps you should read them before you make any more posts.
"useless speculations and false statements"
Let's go back, you asked a public audience our opinion about a car PC, then you **** off the first person that responded. Then you claim neither he or I know what we are talking about when we have experience in the subject. This is how you respond to people that are trying to answer your question?

"If you have not used the product that I gave a link to above; then you have no grounds to comment on its usability or functionality"
The subject YOU ASSIGNED to this thread is "CAR PC". YOU FAILED to specify in this subject "VoomPC M10000 Car PC product usage, anyone used this SPECIFIC PRODUCT, IF NOT DON'T READ THIS". You added that bit of bullsiht later.

pope_usaf, bleunetizen, and I attempted to HELP YOU in your request for information. You can argue what information I supply, but your attitude towards people that offer information that YOU request has earned you the
Ungrateful dumbass award of the month for being retarded with your responses to opinions you requested. Which carries the distinction of your profile landing my permanent ignore filter. Congratulations!
Old 01-29-2006 | 10:53 AM
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Awww, does someone need a hug?
Old 01-29-2006 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by thezedsled
That is quite enough out of you. You got cut short because you were making useless speculations and false statements that were in no way conducive to the information sharing that this form is intended to be used for. If you don’t have anything useful to post about the actual subject of the thread then please do not post at all. My statement above is valid and correct in every way. If you have not used the product that I gave a link to above; then you have no grounds to comment on its usability or functionality which is exactly what you did. The guidelines of this forum are clear, perhaps you should read them before you make any more posts.

have you used this product? how about having a car pc in phoenix? either one apply to you? i have used two different setups and neither worked worth crap during the summertime. they were fine in the winter, but as soon as the temp got up to normal Phoenix weather... the usability went to crap. I also have a friend that runs a stereo shop in Phoenix that says its not even worth in the phx heat.... where is your experience and wealth of knowledge coming from?

all of the guys that have posted so far (with working setups) are posting from climates that dont even compare to a phoenix summer.... keep that in mind
Old 01-29-2006 | 11:36 AM
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lol...fight fight
Old 01-29-2006 | 11:53 AM
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lol...fight fight

Tell me about it...
Old 01-29-2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pope_usaf
have you used this product? how about having a car pc in phoenix? either one apply to you? i have used two different setups and neither worked worth crap during the summertime. they were fine in the winter, but as soon as the temp got up to normal Phoenix weather... the usability went to crap. I also have a friend that runs a stereo shop in Phoenix that says its not even worth in the phx heat.... where is your experience and wealth of knowledge coming from?

all of the guys that have posted so far (with working setups) are posting from climates that dont even compare to a phoenix summer.... keep that in mind
So you’re saying that it is unquestionably impossible to have any sort of computer in your car if you live in Phoenix?
Old 01-29-2006 | 12:11 PM
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So you’re saying that it is unquestionably impossible to have any sort of computer in your car if you live in Phoenix?

no im not saying that at all. if you are that serious about having a car pc, then i'm sure its possible... but it wont be an easy task.

all i am saying is that i have tried 2 setups and they failed more than they worked in phx heat... i have also seen a couple other setups fail at my friends stereo shop.

i was just trying to give you some helpful info... from my personal experiences. you are acting like my experience is wrong because i didnt own that unit... but when someone else talks about their setup working (even though its not the unit you posted) then thats okay.

you can do whatever you want... i couldnt care less what you spend you money on.... i was just trying to let you in on some personal eperiences i have had.
Old 01-29-2006 | 12:14 PM
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I live in the northeast.. the car can be subjected to 100+ degree temps in the summer and -18 below in the winter.. all i can say is my carPC has been fine through all of this with the exception of occasional HD problems at start up in extreme cold weather... My car is garaged and the climate controls in my car are every effective in bringing my car's interior down or up to a normal operating range where the PC also operates confortable. If I feel my PC is overheating, I can simply open the slot door for added ventilation..but i have never needed to do that..

The 1GHz VIA cpu is fine for the tasks I run..which is Navigation, MP3's and OBDII diagnostics... I can also play my NeoGeo rom based MAME games fine... If I hibernate it takes me about 25 seconds from starting the car to being in my GPS program.. launching the MP3 player while I'm navigating takes about 1 second...

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Old 01-29-2006 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by leemik
I live in the northeast.. the car can be subjected to 100+ degree temps in the summer and -18 below in the winter.. all i can say is my carPC has been fine through all of this with the exception of occasional HD problems at start up in extreme cold weather... My car is garaged and the climate controls in my car are every effective in bringing my car's interior down or up to a normal operating range where the PC also operates confortable. If I feel my PC is overheating, I can simply open the slot door for added ventilation..but i have never needed to do that..

The 1GHz VIA cpu is fine for the tasks I run..which is Navigation, MP3's and OBDII diagnostics... I can also play my NeoGeo rom based MAME games fine... If I hibernate it takes me about 25 seconds from starting the car to being in my GPS program.. launching the MP3 player while I'm navigating takes about 1 second...

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temps in phoenix hit 120. it gets hot enough in a car to kill a kid in minutes. its not the same as your 100 degree NE days. phoenix is like an oven. the setup in my car worked fine in cali temps, but in pheonix/vegas it went to ****
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Originally Posted by pope_usaf
temps in phoenix hit 120. it gets hot enough in a car to kill a kid in minutes. its not the same as your 100 degree NE days. phoenix is like an oven. the setup in my car worked fine in cali temps, but in pheonix/vegas it went to ****
What I'm trying to say is if you design your system by choosing just the right components.. a CarPC in AZ or NV is not an impossibility.. thezedsled should look at all the project cars on mp3car.com .. I've seen a few AZ, NV cars there .. so someone has done it... good luck.
Old 01-29-2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by leemik
What I'm trying to say is if you design your system by chooseing just the right components.. a CarPC in AZ or NV is not impossible.. thezedsled should look at all the project cars on mp3car.com .. I've seen a few AZ, NV cars there .. so someone has done it. good luck.

i agree with you 100% that its possible... i just dont want someone to think that they can just slap in the cpu, monitor, etc.. and its gonna work in the phoenix heat. its gonna take some work and possibly more money than expected. im just trying to save someone the pains and heartache... or at least prepare them for what its gonna be like.
Old 01-29-2006 | 01:00 PM
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Folks have offered you great advice on valid temp issues! During the hot summer days it would be unstable. Wire in a temp sensor to automatically shutdown/reboot the PC to protect it. To increase stability you need a custom remote starter alarm triggered by high temperature and then park it in a safe place place. This is a very ambitious project, please post your findings.
Old 01-29-2006 | 01:45 PM
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i'll be sure to keep everyone updated on the functionality of this system. I may add a grill and fan to the front of the glove box to vent air in as well when needed. I suppose if someone really wanted to make sure the pc stayed cool, they could run liquid cooling with a small radiator that could even be mounted outside the vehicle.

I think we should keep the arguing to a minimum here. That will turn this thread into an unpleasant place for anyone trying to find useful information.

to tell you the truth guys, i think hypersprite has one of the best setups i have seen. I could see a fanless system running a via processor easily getting hot. either way if i find it having too many problems, i just bring it in and use it as a second computer for the house...oh well
Old 01-29-2006 | 06:18 PM
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Obviously now is not really a good time for testing when the highs are 65 but if you really want to know what kind of temps that compartment behind the seats gets to, get an oven thermometer with the wired remote sensor. Put the sensor in there and check the temps when you get in and out each day.

Because of all the plastic and metal surrounding this part of the car, it gets far hotter in the rest of the car than it does in there. Having a fan to evacuate hot air might be enough to keep things under control.

Also keep in mind, most of us don't run the PC non-stop. You set it up for quick boot or fast resume from hibernation, so it's not running when when the car is shut off.

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Obviously now is not really a good time for testing when the highs are 65 but if you really want to know what kind of temps that compartment behind the seats gets to, get an oven thermometer with the wired remote sensor. Put the sensor in there and check the temps when you get in and out each day.

Because of all the plastic and metal surrounding this part of the car, it gets far hotter in the rest of the car than it does in there. Having a fan to evacuate hot air might be enough to keep things under control.

Also keep in mind, most of us don't run the PC non-stop. You set it up for quick boot or fast resume from hibernation, so it's not running when when the car is shut off.

Chris

I agree, that is why I think it would be keen to utilize the AC system for cooling the unit. But as long as the right hardware is used the system itself will not generate much heat.
Old 01-29-2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dream724Z
Folks have offered you great advice on valid temp issues! During the hot summer days it would be unstable. Wire in a temp sensor to automatically shutdown/reboot the PC to protect it. To increase stability you need a custom remote starter alarm triggered by high temperature and then park it in a safe place place. This is a very ambitious project, please post your findings.

Well, right now it is just a side thought. But if I do it I will be sure to post plenty of pics and follow up with a basic write up of sorts. I need to find a way to do it for under $500 and still get decent functionality out of it.
Old 01-29-2006 | 07:30 PM
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Here is something else I came across durring my reasearch and information gathering...

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/27/picopsu_power_supply/
Old 01-30-2006 | 07:49 AM
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System's been working great for me the past 4 months

http://www.streetinsanity.com/galler...serialNumber=1

only major problem I havne't fixed is that i get alternator noise threw the RCA's. Either gotta re-route the cables....again....or find a good line driver to up the voltage. Getting kinda weak bass so prob going to get the line driver.
Old 01-30-2006 | 08:01 AM
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You guys might want to check this Shell out for any future car pc buildups
video preview of software

http://www.streetdeck.com/preview_media/preview.wmv

their website
www.streetdeck.com
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