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sxr891 09-30-2009 10:51 AM

350z navigation install?
 
I have an 03 350 without navigation. I was going to buy the factory nav system, what all is there to buy? Is there any wires or are they already routed? and is it better to go with factory nav or go with another system and do a custom install?

dave079 09-30-2009 12:21 PM

Go with another system. Installing a factory nav into a non nav equipped Z is too expensive and much too involved. It requires taking half the interior out including the dash to even get to the wires needed.

Kal_El 09-30-2009 01:31 PM

+1.... do something like this:

https://my350z.com/forum/audio-and-v...y-install.html

sxr891 10-01-2009 02:07 PM

Is this one of those things that a common person can do in home or does a proffesional need to do it?

Spike100 10-01-2009 05:00 PM

^^ You can do this yourself. The 2003 is a simple installation for a fixed LCD screen in the upper/forward cubby, and it’s easy hook a blackbox navigation device to this screen.

You can also simply install an all-in-one device in the double din slot.

--Spike

dave079 10-01-2009 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Spike100 (Post 7799754)
^^ You can do this yourself. The 2003 is a simple installation for a fixed LCD screen in the upper/forward cubby, and it’s easy hook a blackbox navigation device to this screen.

You can also simply install an all-in-one device in the double din slot.

--Spike

+1 Thats an easy way.

sxr891 10-01-2009 07:06 PM

Thanks, i found a factory unit with the dvd console for 400 but idk if its worth it? Or what all else i would need to install, It has the screen, controls, and dvd console.... And why did it cost so much for them to by the aftermarket, I found the same stuff for alot less

Spike100 10-01-2009 07:15 PM

^^ I'm not sure what your point is.

$400 for a factory unit by itself is a fair price since it will cost 3 or 4 times that amount to get the unit in your car (if in fact you can accomplish this). If you plan to install a factory unit in a 2003 350Z that lacks the approriate wiring, you are going to be frustrated with the project.

--Spike
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EDIT: To add an additional point about installation cost... If you hire a shop to install the factory unit, you will spend 6 or more times the $400 you paid for the unit.

Installation cost for an aftermarket unit is minimal, especially if it's a double din device.

THEDUKE 10-01-2009 07:30 PM

Let him try it and we can see the outcome.

Spike100 10-01-2009 07:49 PM

^^ Good point. I doubt he will get much past where he is now on this project.

I just hate seeing someone waste a lot of $$ to get an inferior result. The OP could inexpensively and easily drop an all-in-one device into the Z’s double din slot. With just a little more effort and probably no or little additional cost, he could mount and a touch-screen capable LCD in the upper/forward cubby with a GPS blackbox, and get a better viewing angle.

Either solution is available from Kenwood, and using Kenwood devices gets you Garmin’s great GPS interface.

--Spike

dave079 10-01-2009 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by sxr891 (Post 7800151)
Thanks, i found a factory unit with the dvd console for 400 but idk if its worth it? Or what all else i would need to install, It has the screen, controls, and dvd console.... And why did it cost so much for them to by the aftermarket, I found the same stuff for alot less

I thought we already explained that its near impossible to do. Without all of the wiring which is a lot, plus having to rip your entire car apart including your entire dash and part of the back area just to access where the wires have to go, then having to figure out how they all plug into the main wiring, then by all means go ahead. We warned you.

sxr891 10-02-2009 05:34 AM

ok stupid question. what is double din slot? and gps blackbox?

quakerroatmeal 10-02-2009 12:19 PM

Double Din slot is just the cd player slot that is the size of 4" x 7"..

GPS Blackbox is a seperate gps unit that attaches to a device to get gps signal/naviagtion.

https://my350z.com/forum/audio-and-v...ion-setup.html

This is an even cheaper and easier route if you wanted to do this.

sxr891 10-02-2009 02:25 PM

ok, would all of this still work with the factory bose?

Spike100 10-02-2009 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by sxr891 (Post 7800961)
ok stupid question. what is double din slot? and gps blackbox?

Here are a couple of threads that answer your question about double din and black-box navigation devices.

This link is Paul350Z's great instructions for installing an LCD screen in the upper/forward cubby of a 2003 350Z. Paul's instructions are easily extrapolated to any year Z (350 or 370).
https://my350z.com/forum/audio-build...tallation.html

This thread describes installing the Kenwood KOS system into any car. Notice that you can run your entire CES from a screen in the upper/forward cubby, or just go with a simple double-din installation.
https://my350z.com/forum/audio-build...pics-here.html

--Spike

Spike100 10-02-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by sxr891 (Post 7802790)
ok, would all of this still work with the factory bose?

It will... but you may need to do some modifications.

If you go with the Kenwood KOS system, you can integrate this with your existing Bose hardware. In fact the Kenwood KOS System is designed to integrate with just about any existing car CES.

If you install an aftermarket double din H/U, you will need to install an adapter. Search here for all the information you need to accomplish this.

--Spike

sxr891 10-03-2009 06:51 AM

I plan on using the factory bose, does the Kenwood system have the Nav built in?

Spike100 10-03-2009 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by sxr891 (Post 7804126)
I plan on using the factory bose, does the Kenwood system have the Nav built in?

Kenwood makes double-din devices that have built-in navigation, double-din devices that do not have navigation built-in navigation but allow adding navigation by installing a separate “black box” navigation device, or a modular system (the KOS System) that can use a remote touch-screen monitor to drive a variety of components.


You can purchase a Kenwood double-din “all-in-one” device that includes navigation. An example is the Kenwood DNX9140 (Excelon 2-DIN Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation).
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entert...gation/DNX9140


Kenwood also makes double-din devices that allow you to add a separate “black box” navigation unit. The DDX814 (Excelon 2-DIN Navigation Ready Multimedia DVD Receiver) is an example.
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entert...igation/DDX814

You add the KNA-G510 (Hideaway Navigation System) to the DDX814 to make the unit navigation capable.
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entert...ation/KNA-G510


If you prefer using a remote monitor that you install in the upper/forward cubby (the 350/370 Z accommodates this nicely), the Kenwood KOS System is a good choice.
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entert...on/CarPortal™/

The advantage of the KOS System is you can add this to your existing CES, and then add whatever component (GPS navigation, DVD player, amps, etc.) you want while keeping your existing stuff in place and operational.


Pioneer and Alpine also make very good products that incorporate navigation.

I happen to like Kenwood for these reasons:
  • Durability (the products withstand the harsh environment inside a car’s interior, including extreme temperature swings and varying humidity)
  • Garmin OEM GPS navigation
  • Modular components (you can add and mix various devices)

Hope this helps,

--Spike

JEKL 10-03-2009 07:43 PM

Thanks to Spike, I went with the Kenwood KOS system and could not be happier!!! :) The Bose is a horrible system, but if you insist on keeping it, the KOS will let you do that.

sxr891 10-04-2009 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by jekl1000 (Post 7805589)
Thanks to Spike, I went with the Kenwood KOS system and could not be happier!!! :) The Bose is a horrible system, but if you insist on keeping it, the KOS will let you do that.

how much did your full setup cost?
and a break down of each peice?


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