Like he said "legal". Adjustable A arms are not legal SP.

 

I had always interpreted the rules as them being legal since it's a part required to get the car back to the proper alignment after lowering which is legal. Is that not correct? I also recall a bulletin that said these are allowable if camber plates are not available. Let me go back and look and see if I can find it.

 

Camber plates, offset bushings, crash bolts and sloting of strut towers are legal ways to get camber in SP. The adjustable A arms are legal in ST and SM classes.

 

i also recall a similar bulletin about adjustible arms if camber plates were not availible. i could have sworn i read it somewhere. but i will see if i can dig it up also.

 

Man, that would be SWEET if there was such a bulletin. I can't understand why a-arms were excluded if all other conventional means of camber adjustment are legal.

G35_AutoX, I've got a set of Cusco A-arms on my car now. If I'm going to go through the effort and cost to head down and compete against that kind of talent, I have to have them on the car. It's way too much of a disadvantage otherwise.

 

Go to Nationals whether you get that camber or not. It's a mistake to wait until you're "ready" for Nationals, as you're never ready until you've been there. The level of competition is mind-blowing, as is the experience. It's worth going even if you get crushed; in fact, you should go and get crushed once so that you know what you're up against.

Steve
- raced with the Motorsports Club of Ottawa way back in the day

 

Here is a list of item on the table for 2006: http://scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/So...ulechanges.pdf

There is nothing in there about SP control arms. If there was a bulletin in 2005 or earlier it would have been in the 2006 rule book as a new item.

It can be confuesing but there are a number of ST item not allowed in SP, adjusatable A Arms, big brake kits and body kit are among them.

There are legal means to gain the camber you want in your car, offset bushings, it is just a matter of doing it. I would bet you can sell you adjustable arms for more than the legal bushings would cost to have made.

 

I agree that it's all about the experience, but I just don't want my experience to end with a protest and a DNF.

ULLLOSE, thanks for opening my eyes to this ridiculous rule. Since I came from ST, I figured SP would be less restrictive. I guess my only option now is to either see if I can find a counter to the rule or move to SM where I'll REALLY get my *** handed to me.

 

Or option #3, make you car legal by getting offset bushings for you arms. fyi this is what all the 4th gen Camaro/Firebird's have to do in ESP to get legal camber, it is not a big deal.

 

Further reading the rules, it looks like my SPC rear camber/toe bolts are a permanent illegal modification anyway. Attachment points can not be modified, but I ovalized them to allow the eccentric bolts to work better (as per SPC instructions). Having said that, I'm only using them to run OEM alignment in the rear (0 toe and -2 deg) so it might in fact be legal?

Having recently run the Cdn Nationals and seeing last year's SCCA DS champion flog a Z06, I agree at the suggestion of heading down to gain experience. I've never been more ready in terms of vehicle and driving - but I certainly don't want to get DQ'd.

Offset bushings are an option but I've heard they're only good for -1 at best. Any suggestions where I can get these bushings made?

Former MCO member Steve? I don't know how long you've been out of town but we've back at Corel centre and our events are regularily drawing 70 drivers AND we're still getting at least six 50+ seconds runs plus fun runs. Good times right now for MCO. The club as a whole is also a lot more competitive in Provincial/National events which is nice to see.

 

I didn't include that option since my original arms are LONG gone. Had that mod done about 18 months ago.

 

What about this statement at the beginning of the SP rules:

Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current national Street Touring (ST) class rules are permitted to compete in their respective Street Prepared classes, with the additional allowance that they may use any tire which meets the requirements of 15.3 and fits on the ST-legal wheels and within the ST-legal bodywork.

If my car was prepared to the Current national ST class (STX), then it should be legal to my respective SP class as stated above, right?

 

Yes you can run a ST legal car in SP as long as you do not go beyond ST prep, except tires. This means if you pulled your cat, light flywheel etc all SP legal items that are not legal in ST it would make your car not legal under the ST cars in SP allowance. This also does nothing for the 350Z or G35 coupe guys as those cars are not in any ST class.

 

Non legal mods even set to factory specs are not legal. Just go run SM2 if you want the experience, you car is legal there.

 

Well this is good news for me then since the only thing I changed from when I was ST legal was my tires.

Thanks ULLLOSE. I appreciate your input on this! I hope to meet you in Topeka.

 

Just look for the guy in the RX8 making Hackmond cry.

 

Well I'm pretty sure I'll be the only 4-Door G there so I'll be easy to spot as well.

 

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