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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I have never been at that track but it does not seem to be too hard on brakes. With street tires and my driving style, I think I would be fine with Ferodo DS2500 pads on the front. Your driving style may be different. On the rears I just go with Axxis ultimates because they are cheap and pad selection is minimal anyway. I had success with Hawk blue in the rear but the only reason why I have not purchased them again is because the brake dust is very corrosive in the rain. Hawk blue in the front was a nightmare.

Since you have an 06 G, there might be different selection of pads as I believe those are slightly larger rotors/calipers.

thanks mberthia ... i will look into more track pad options
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by betamotorsports
Absolutely. Also replace ALL of your brake fluid with Motul 600, ATE Super Blue, Castrol SRF, or even Ford HD.
I did, I have been using Motul 600 for about 6 months. I also make sure I bleed before and after the events.

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Yes, I have been doing so for 3 years - about 15 track days. Most of those days are on a track wich is not too demanding on the brakes though. I would keep going with what you have - the new stock brakes you just purchased - and give it another try with better pads and by cutting the dust shields. Ducting is not an easy thing to do, you may want to try, there are a few threads on this board with guys who have done it.

One option is to get the Stillen front bumper with their duct kit but it's not cheap. Another one is to make it yourself but you have to fabricate something to direct the hose to the rotor and route the hose to the front where it can pick up air.

In the long run, if you really get into it, you will probably get a BBK as you are going to go through a lot of sets of pads...
Cool, did you do those evets with Non-Brembo Calipers?
I already did some research on ducting, and I will do it. The dust shields are gone.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Yes, I used non Brembos for those 15 track days. I show Front Brembos in my sig but they are still in a box in the basement. I got them last fall. The car came out of storage last week and I will be putting them on within the next month or so. My first track day this year will be at the end of April.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mberthia
Yes, I used non Brembos for those 15 track days. I show Front Brembos in my sig but they are still in a box in the basement. I got them last fall. The car came out of storage last week and I will be putting them on within the next month or so. My first track day this year will be at the end of April.
Good luck!
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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1 hour sessions? Sweet Jesus! I was thinking the half-hour sessions I did this past weekend were too long.
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Originally Posted by Armitage
1 hour sessions? Sweet Jesus! I was thinking the half-hour sessions I did this past weekend were too long.
I still can believe I stayed the whole hour

Originally Posted by RBlover69
Cool, anyone know if the reg pads are compatible with the 06+ rotors . Since they have bigger calipers. I plan on picking up some nismo Race pads or Hawk race pads for a gainsville event. Over here in florida.
Are you going to the Road Course Test & Tune?

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nicolaycastro
I still can believe I stayed the whole hour



Are you going to the Road Course Test & Tune?
Hell yea man. Granted my oil issue if an issue gets me some more clarification. Why u headed there aswell brotha?
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
Hell yea man. Granted my oil issue if an issue gets me some more clarification. Why u headed there aswell brotha?
I might, I just dont want to put so many miles on my car. Do you know of any place around there where I could rent a manual Z?
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man up man lol
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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stay away from the hawk pads, they murder rotors. My rotors got more life in 7 sets of pads than one day on HP+
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
stay away from the hawk pads, they murder rotors. My rotors got more life in 7 sets of pads than one day on HP+
You're right.

I wish people/vendor would stop thinking the Hawk HP+ and HPS are track pads...

The Hawk DTC-070 and DTC-060 compound seem promissing though. From their web site, they don't have a 350Z application yet, but that should come eventually.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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But what about race pads dont they reduce rotor life as well?
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nicolaycastro
But what about race pads dont they reduce rotor life as well?
Nope!

They key is to use a pads appropriate for the application.

Race pads for the track.
Street pads for the street.

Use one or the other for the wrong application and you get all sorts of nasty things happenning.

I do between 6-10 track days a year with one set of rotor and pads...
I'm at 37,000 miles and still use the original pads on the street...
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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That's too much work for me. I'll change wheels/tires and pads for track days but I can't see myself also removing the calipers to swap the rotors every time. I do bleed the brakes after a few days but not for every track day.

On a side note, anyone know how long I can keep an unopened bottle of ATE blue. I have one that may be 2 years old. I'm not sure if I should use it.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mberthia
That's too much work for me. I'll change wheels/tires and pads for track days but I can't see myself also removing the calipers to swap the rotors every time. I do bleed the brakes after a few days but not for every track day.

On a side note, anyone know how long I can keep an unopened bottle of ATE blue. I have one that may be 2 years old. I'm not sure if I should use it.
I keep the same rotors on all the time. I only change the pads.

That takes ~5 minutes more per wheels on a Brembo equiped Z.

You might try to contact ATE and ask what is the shelf life of their fluid?
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kolia
I keep the same rotors on all the time. I only change the pads.

That takes ~5 minutes more per wheels on a Brembo equiped Z.

You might try to contact ATE and ask what is the shelf life of their fluid?
I do the same. My car has 33K miles. I am still on the original pads that have 200 passes on it from autox. I only take them out for track events. If you use a good track pads, you shouldn't be killing rotors. I mean you will have to replace them when you do buy new street pads, but I have no problem using them on race pads at the track. I do have to say the little cracks on the rotors do scare the dealer away....
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Kolia
I keep the same rotors on all the time. I only change the pads.

That takes ~5 minutes more per wheels on a Brembo equiped Z.

You might try to contact ATE and ask what is the shelf life of their fluid?
I just sent an email to ATE. It's a German company but owned by Continental Tieves. Thanks, I had not though of doing so ...
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Look what I've found:

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/Brak...omparison.html
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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For Sale: 2 bottles of ATE brake fluid
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Kolia, are you still using stock brembo rotors or did you upgrade to 2 piece or some other kind/brand?
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