running 4 same-sized wheels+tires on the track?
Why does JUN have 265's on their 800hp AWD Z?
I'm pretty sure my amateur driving ability wouldn't make a great test bed for proving this.
For a company as large and well known as JUN, I'd imagine they would use 275's or 285's if they needed to.
No need to get all upset over my simple question.
For a company as large and well known as JUN, I'd imagine they would use 275's or 285's if they needed to.
No need to get all upset over my simple question.
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Originally Posted by Beau
Why does JUN have 265's on their 800hp AWD Z?
Then again, I know little about JUN other than that I can't afford and thus probably don't need anything they sell, and that at one point they had a Super Lemon (sounds like my Ford tow-vehicle?) that was fast :P
Originally Posted by eeZee
Do 275/40/17 fit under the front fenders with stock suspension? In other words, can I fit those all around without worrying about rubbing fenders on a stock 06 350Z Touring?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Originally Posted by z-u-later
I'm running 275/40/17 on stock 17x8 autocross rims on all four corners (5mm spacers in front & 25mm in rear). I had to roll the rear fenders due to the 25mm spacers. My Z is also lowered over 1" but no rubbing issues. Here is a pic of my 17" autocross setup from yesterday's autocross:
Originally Posted by scotts300
A 1" spacer? E-gad. 275 is too large for an 8" wheel, and I'm sure is making your times suffer versus a properly-sized 245 or 255 on the 8".
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Originally Posted by dmoffitt
spoken like a true ricer...
can I see your math for how 275 vs 285 affects contact patch and rolling resistance enough to slow me down?
I wouldn't be running 275s up front if I was drag racing / only cared about straight-line speed anyway........
can I see your math for how 275 vs 285 affects contact patch and rolling resistance enough to slow me down?
I wouldn't be running 275s up front if I was drag racing / only cared about straight-line speed anyway........
no need to get aggressive here. Like i said, i SUGGEST, im here for knowledge too. I went with 285 before on the track too with the same setting and on the back straight and front straight i DID lose alot of speed. I wasnt able to achieve a faster time, ( cold be the weather) on a race track ( not drag )
There is no perfect setting for every track and every car has a different setting and such. There's always a need for a balance. I was just suggesting that wider isnt ALWAYS better.
Originally Posted by betamotorsports
Who cares? We don't need to answer this question. You and your buddy above are making the assertion that wider tires = slower car around a racetrack. Prove it.
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Originally Posted by mikhe
wider tires = faster car around the racetrack?
Originally Posted by mikhe
no need to get aggressive here. Like i said, i SUGGEST, im here for knowledge too. I went with 285 before on the track too with the same setting and on the back straight and front straight i DID lose alot of speed. I wasnt able to achieve a faster time, ( cold be the weather) on a race track ( not drag )
There is no perfect setting for every track and every car has a different setting and such. There's always a need for a balance. I was just suggesting that wider isnt ALWAYS better.
There is no perfect setting for every track and every car has a different setting and such. There's always a need for a balance. I was just suggesting that wider isnt ALWAYS better.
This is not a critique of your driving skill. it's a simple reality that we each must face, humbly, when driving on a race track.
As for "each car being different", we're pretty much all driving the same car.
Are you trying to say wider tires = faster car around the racetrack?
On a 3,000+ lb., 300hp race car, you can't have tires that are too wide. On a 1,500 lb., 120hp race car, tires too wide can be a problem.
A wider tire was so important in that category of racing that Goodyear and Hoosier spend a buttload of money engineering a tire that gives up to 2" more width. Goodyear and Hoosier both think wider is better in the race tire world.
Wider-is-better certainly worked for our 2005 Track that Carter piloted to a very close 2nd place in BS at the 2006 Solo Nationals.We had 285/30/18 710's on the 8" fronts and 8.5" rears.We first used 245's but could not dial out the understeer until we went to the 285's.
We use 285 x 18" Kumho 710 on 9" fronts and 10" rears. Last year we used a smaller tire because we were required to use a narrow 8.5" wheel. the Kumho 710 tires this year are the same compound as last year so the tire is a constant. Our car is definitely faster this year due to wider tires. The driver is the same and the car is basically the same. One thing you need to consider on a road course is that the "Z" car is a momentum car. It doesn't have the torque that a V-8 Camaro has but it will corner a little faster, therefore momentum. When driving a Z the speed will be basically in your learning how to be fast smooth. I always advocate making the car handle before you spend or waste money on more engine. If you want response when you push down the fast pedal buy a corvette.
Originally Posted by tomsn16
Wider-is-better certainly worked for our 2005 Track that Carter piloted to a very close 2nd place in BS at the 2006 Solo Nationals.We had 285/30/18 710's on the 8" fronts and 8.5" rears.We first used 245's but could not dial out the understeer until we went to the 285's.
Originally Posted by merlot350Z
If you want response when you push down the fast pedal buy a corvette.
+1...kinda wish I kept my miata to learn how to drive and handle the track, then step up to something w/ more power.
Originally Posted by scotts300
A 1" spacer? E-gad. 275 is too large for an 8" wheel, and I'm sure is making your times suffer versus a properly-sized 245 or 255 on the 8".
Originally Posted by scotts300
285s on an 8" wheel? 255 is the recommended max on an 8" wheel, but I'm listening...
Z-U-Later brings up a good point.It is often helpful to the reader,for posters to qualify their suggestions/opinions by stating were the info comes from....experience,testing,results etc.
One thing people sometimes forget is that racers do strange things with their cars to meet a set of rules. Ideally a 285 width tire should be mounted on a 10" to 10.5" wide rim, but when the rules say the max rim width is 8", you and your buddies spend hours getting a 285 to fit where is doesn't belong.



