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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
Congrats on representing and excellent work for both teams.

I've always wanted to race at Laguna.
Both teams???

Not too sure what that means, but thank you.

We call the race team Double Down Motorsports, and the Shop is called Relentless Autosports, if that helps clear something up for you.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
you guys are great man, love to see the Z doing what it was designed to do. Amazing car and i wish speed tv would actually televise these events or at least be availble to stream or view the entire event online or something i watch the unitech car in the rolex series blow up on speed tv. i wish i could see your Z killing the competion on the coarse aswell.lol and from what i hear this wasnt the most optimum setup.
Thanks man. I am pretty sure Redline TV was out there filming and that gets aired on SPEED. The Cal Speedway time attack at the beginning of the year was aired on ESPN2 for a show called Import Racers as well and the Z got a few good shots in there.

Yeah the car's setup was less than optimum. We just got the engine in the car the day before leaving for the event and Jim Wolf had about an hour with it on the dyno which was only enough time for him to make it safe on low boost levels. The car would barely idle and the rev limiter was still set at 7100 rpm. The suspension setup was not ideal either. We swapped to a different valved and stiffer sprung Stance coilover setup at the track while the first morning practice sessions were going on Saturday. We didn't realize until we were near done that the stiffer rear springs were not in the box. So we went up 2k on the front springs and kept the same rear which resulted in a bad understeer problem.

Then we had a wheel problem. We mounted our Toyo R888 tires onto a brand new set of Axis Reverb wheels. Scott went out for about two laps and came in complaining of rear end issues. Turns out one of the Reverbs was a different offset than the others and that rear tire was rubbing badly on the rear coilover cutting it almost to the cords. Luckily we had a spare Reverb wheel in the correct offset with us and had the tire re-mounted on the correct wheel.

Believe me, there were a ton more little things and we made changes and adjustments after every single time the car took a lap on the track and it still wasn't up to what we were happy with.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Just saw the top 3 results for each class posted on another forum...

Modified RWD:

1st Place - Kip Olson - Driving Ambition NSX - 1:36.552
2nd Place - Scott Bush - Double Down 350Z - 1:38.409
3rd Place - Billy Johnson - Team Kaneko Datsun 510 - 1:38.575

Street RWD: (Talk about competitive...)

1st Place - Mike Bonanni - Double Down 350Z - 1:42.025
2nd Place - Igor Iyustin - Driving Ambition NSX - 1:42.160
3rd Place - Matt Andrews - Fair Enough Comp. Supra - 1:42.187
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Good Job guys cant wait to see you at T4T...
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Awesome...congrats dudes.....now that you have down time maybe we can figure out how to get you some REAL hoosiers for next year
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahzBurnt
Awesome...congrats dudes.....now that you have down time maybe we can figure out how to get you some REAL hoosiers for next year
LOL, yes that is a must.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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What up Scott? No mention of the little guys eh?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fallenromeo
What up Scott? No mention of the little guys eh?
What do you mean? You have been on the list the whole time... You scuffed in that new street tire for us remember?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fallenromeo
What up Scott? No mention of the little guys eh?
Yes, we can't forget fallenromeo who was nice enough to drive around for a month or so with our Nismo LMGT4's and the street class tires (instead of his stock wheels) so that the new front tire would be nice and scuffed up for us.....what a sacrafice LOL Hahaha. J/K Thanks man.

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Man what a great time we had despite all the sound level issues. I have some insane audio clips that i took of the Z shooting down the final straight before the hard left turn. I'll try to post it when i get a chance.
Very tough competition out there.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Congrats Mike and Scott .
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Congrats to both of you, and great driving. We were there cheering and supporting (parked in the paddock, and were the only two Z32 TTs as well as a Z33ZR). We'll try to fill in for you in the street class next year, as I didn't have the ***** to drive my Z32 this time around. I saw both of you a few times, but you were busy with the car each time.

How would you compare the RE050As to the RT615s for the street class?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Thanks again everybody!

scotts300 - Yeah we are usually pretty busy unfortunately, but we are always willing to meet people from the boards so next time come say hello anyways! Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of bringing a large crew with us to these events like all of the bigger teams do, so us drivers have to pull double duty as crew chiefs, mechanics, and all kinds of other odd jobs. Running 3 classes in the Z, and this time one in the Evo as well, keeps us very very busy. Luckily we usually have one or two people who volunteer to come help us out, but its usually never enough.

The RE050As are great street tires, they really are. I have been very impressed with them all year. I have not tried the RT615s so I can't comment much on those, but from what I hear they tend to overheat a little faster than the other street tires. I will tell you though that I ran the new Toyo R1R 140 treadwear street tire on the Evo and those show great potential in beating everybody else out of the street class tire game so keep an eye out for those. I was very impressed with those compared to the RE01R street tires I used on the Evo before.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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What were your alignment settings and I may have missed it, but what sizes were the wheels?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by punch10
What were your alignment settings and I may have missed it, but what sizes were the wheels?
18" x 9.5" F, 18" x 10.5" R. We usually run a 35 offset in the rear, but the one that was causing problems was actually a 45 offset that was mistakenly given to us.

The alignment settings, who knows what they really are. Like I said before, we don't have the luxury of bringing mechanics and techs to the track with us. Quite honestly we were changing alignment based off of driving impressions. No alignment tools, just kinda going off of feel. Now that we are back though, we are going to see where we ended up and make some final adjustments to bring everything back to perfect. Hopefully next year we will be in a position where we can our mechanic to come out there with us.

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Official results and pictures of the top 3 cars in each class are up on www.RedlineTimeAttack.com as well as a nice re-cap of the event in the left hand column.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SinCity350Z
18" x 9.5" F, 18" x 10.5" R. We usually run a 35 offset in the rear, but the one that was causing problems was actually a 45 offset that was mistakenly given to us.

The alignment settings, who knows what they really are. Like I said before, we don't have the luxury of bringing mechanics and techs to the track with us. Quite honestly we were changing alignment based off of driving impressions. No alignment tools, just kinda going off of feel. Now that we are back though, we are going to see where we ended up and make some final adjustments to bring everything back to perfect. Hopefully next year we will be in a position where we can our mechanic to come out there with us.
Gotcha. I am building a time attack S13 for 2008, so I was just curious as to what you were running. Awesome results by the way!
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by punch10
Gotcha. I am building a time attack S13 for 2008, so I was just curious as to what you were running. Awesome results by the way!
FWIW, on my Z32TT I run:

Front:
2.5* camber, 10.5-11* caster, 1/8 total toe in (1/16th per side). The added front caster increases the effective camber in hard turns, but leaves a decent contact patch for straight-line braking...

Rear:
1.5* camber, 10.5-11* caster, 1/16 total toe in for high-speed stability. This relatively small amount of camber allows a wider contact patch to (try) and keep the power down...
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Great to hear!
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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Thanks for posting the times. It always helps to have a target.
Those are outstanding times.

Good work.
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