New toy - adjust your vdc?
I don't find this for sale in the USA yet...but is appears that it wil sell for about $650 US$. I sent an email to the US distributor to get more in. (
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So basically this charges you $$$ for the ability to disable VDC, or leave it on in some watered down form? I don't want a watered down version of VDC. I want it on or off.
That video, where do I start. Nothing empirical or scientific/technical. I will quote the three reasons why they developed this product:
1. "Most cars sold around the world now come standard with stability control systems"
2. "Mechanical components alone are not enough to tune suspension anymore"
3. "We give back control to the driver"
I disagree with points 2 and 3 in the context of this device. Help me understand how they give control back to the driver if there is still a computer intervening when, in those situations, in the hands of a capable driver, it should not be.
That video, where do I start. Nothing empirical or scientific/technical. I will quote the three reasons why they developed this product:
1. "Most cars sold around the world now come standard with stability control systems"
2. "Mechanical components alone are not enough to tune suspension anymore"
3. "We give back control to the driver"
I disagree with points 2 and 3 in the context of this device. Help me understand how they give control back to the driver if there is still a computer intervening when, in those situations, in the hands of a capable driver, it should not be.
Last edited by guitman32; Apr 7, 2008 at 06:12 PM.
me too. installed a nismo lsd and im all good. When researching the Z before my purchase i learned that not only does the vdc control stability but so does the viscous lsd. if you watch Best motoring: the Z shock, this is discussed. sport compact car also discovered the same thing which is why they chose a base model and droppped in an lsd.
Ok, so I removed the YAW sensor from the car, and drop 3 seconds off my lap times @ Roebling Road...went from 1:27 to 1:24 with no other major changes....AND SAVED $650 by NOT purchasing the VDC adjustment Gizmo
I could carry more speed REAL deep into all the corners without the BS brake issues kicking in...And I didn't notice any changes in my LSD, handling, or overall traction under power! Also, for the 1st time that I can remember, I didn't pull into the pits after a session with one or both front brakes billowing smoke....(however, Reobling isn't real hard on brakes, so this might still happen at a different track)
The car is now perfect....It was balanced so nice that I could do anything I wanted with the car...no understeer and no oversteer (except in low speed corners..normal Z issue) ....use a liitle gas here to stick the rear end, back off the gas there to make the nose turn in, hammer the gas to blast thru the long sweeping corners at Roebling. SLAM the brake anywhere and the car just stops nice and straight. Trail brake anywhere you wanted. You can left foot brake, with the right still on the gas while turning even worked....not that you will do this much but I tried it as a test only deal.
The car never let me down...
I could carry more speed REAL deep into all the corners without the BS brake issues kicking in...And I didn't notice any changes in my LSD, handling, or overall traction under power! Also, for the 1st time that I can remember, I didn't pull into the pits after a session with one or both front brakes billowing smoke....(however, Reobling isn't real hard on brakes, so this might still happen at a different track)
The car is now perfect....It was balanced so nice that I could do anything I wanted with the car...no understeer and no oversteer (except in low speed corners..normal Z issue) ....use a liitle gas here to stick the rear end, back off the gas there to make the nose turn in, hammer the gas to blast thru the long sweeping corners at Roebling. SLAM the brake anywhere and the car just stops nice and straight. Trail brake anywhere you wanted. You can left foot brake, with the right still on the gas while turning even worked....not that you will do this much but I tried it as a test only deal.
The car never let me down...
Last edited by laze1; Apr 21, 2008 at 02:52 PM.
Originally Posted by laze1
Ok, so I removed the YAW sensor from the car, and drop 3 seconds off my lap times @ Roebling Road...
Well, I have been to Roebling with this car 3 times, each one a 2 day event. (total of 8 events @ Roebling in any car) The 1st event last fall the car was completely stock, and ran 1:29. (and my 1st track event in the Z overall)
The 2nd visit in Jan 08, the car had Hotchkis TVS and RA-1 and SPL front and rear camber arms but running near stock camber/toe settings and ran 1:27s (that U helped me install..thnx!)
Note: This was my 1st time ever on R-comp tires on any car...
The 3rd event this past weekend, I had max race camber/toe setting, played with tire pressures, and removed the Yaw sensor,,,and ran high 1:24s.
Clearly, the faster times are not just because I fixed the VDC issues. Overall I am a much better driver now. But the VDC fix helped further build my confidence level in this car SIGNIFICANTLY! I have 20 track days/16 track events at 5 different track under my belt now, and I am just now really understanding how to go FAST....
And I had another 2 day event at Barber between events #2 & #3 @ Roebling and I get a much better feel for how to drive the RA-1s...how far I could lean on them.. So when I got to Roebling for event #3, I knew how to use the extra traction.
And Roebling is a track that I normaly do a great deal of trail braking or braking when the car is slightly turning. So this fix was very apparent on every lap.
Have you been to Roebling? If not you should go with me soon!
The 2nd visit in Jan 08, the car had Hotchkis TVS and RA-1 and SPL front and rear camber arms but running near stock camber/toe settings and ran 1:27s (that U helped me install..thnx!)
Note: This was my 1st time ever on R-comp tires on any car...
The 3rd event this past weekend, I had max race camber/toe setting, played with tire pressures, and removed the Yaw sensor,,,and ran high 1:24s.
Clearly, the faster times are not just because I fixed the VDC issues. Overall I am a much better driver now. But the VDC fix helped further build my confidence level in this car SIGNIFICANTLY! I have 20 track days/16 track events at 5 different track under my belt now, and I am just now really understanding how to go FAST....
And I had another 2 day event at Barber between events #2 & #3 @ Roebling and I get a much better feel for how to drive the RA-1s...how far I could lean on them.. So when I got to Roebling for event #3, I knew how to use the extra traction.
And Roebling is a track that I normaly do a great deal of trail braking or braking when the car is slightly turning. So this fix was very apparent on every lap.
Have you been to Roebling? If not you should go with me soon!
Originally Posted by thinking
3 seconds off the same day/same conditions/same setup or 3 seconds off your previous best on a different day?
Last edited by laze1; Apr 21, 2008 at 06:02 PM.


