racing harness and harness bar
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I will only add this, don't skimp on safety equipment. If you think the bars or belts are just for show or something cool for your car, think again.
I have seen some pretty horrific crashes that people have had on tracks and they were good drivers. It's not always the driver that causes the crash, so take this stuff seriously. If you are going to track the car, get a roll bar, not a harness bar. Also, make damn sure your harnesses are installed correctly and with an anti-sub belt! I have seen incorretly installed harnesses kill two drivers that were involved in relatively survivable crashes.
Also, don't forget a good helmet. Notice I didn't say just a helmet. Get the lightest one you can find and make sure it is SA2005 rated or better. You really don't want one older than that. For those that don't know, the SA rating gives you some fire protection inside the helmet, as opposed to the M rated helmets, which don't. You'll want the lightest helmet you can find for two simple reasons. 1) You reduce neck strain and fatigue as your day goes on and 2) should you have a crash, you are reducing the possible inertia that can cause an injury.
Lastly, get a HANS or similar device. If you are going to argue that you don't need one or that you are so strong that you can withstand what it protects against, well.......forget everything I just wrote, go put the hammer down and don't brake until you see God. (gotta thin the heard somehow).
I have seen some pretty horrific crashes that people have had on tracks and they were good drivers. It's not always the driver that causes the crash, so take this stuff seriously. If you are going to track the car, get a roll bar, not a harness bar. Also, make damn sure your harnesses are installed correctly and with an anti-sub belt! I have seen incorretly installed harnesses kill two drivers that were involved in relatively survivable crashes.
Also, don't forget a good helmet. Notice I didn't say just a helmet. Get the lightest one you can find and make sure it is SA2005 rated or better. You really don't want one older than that. For those that don't know, the SA rating gives you some fire protection inside the helmet, as opposed to the M rated helmets, which don't. You'll want the lightest helmet you can find for two simple reasons. 1) You reduce neck strain and fatigue as your day goes on and 2) should you have a crash, you are reducing the possible inertia that can cause an injury.
Lastly, get a HANS or similar device. If you are going to argue that you don't need one or that you are so strong that you can withstand what it protects against, well.......forget everything I just wrote, go put the hammer down and don't brake until you see God. (gotta thin the heard somehow).
SCCA lends helmets at each event so that's no problem for me.
Do you have a solution to my problem?
I think your idea of just going with the stock belts and the CG Lock for now is your best bet short of going with a full roll bar and harness setup. Many sanctioning bodies around the world (including ASN in Canada, who set the rules I drive under) specifically forbid use of full shoulder harness with anything other than a full roll bar; harness bars that do not provide additional rollover protection are not an option. Seems counter-intuitive, but there is a good reason: If you roll wearing a stock diagonal shoulder strap, and your roof collapses, your body can tilt sideways toward the middle of the car. If, on the other hand, you are held rigidly vertical by your fixed shoulder harness, that can't happen; if the roof collapses, you stay where you are, the roof structure collapses onto your head and your neck breaks. Generally not considered a good situation. I originally wanted to do the same thing you are, but the research changed my mind. Last year I just used stock belts, and this year I'm adding the CG Lock to at least give me some of the "locked in" feeling you get with harness. Good luck with whatever path you decide to go with!
don't mean to thread jack but since the topic is about harness bars and such..... Does anyone have the BCR harness bar? I bought mine a few months back from a member but haven't installed since i'm deployed but I did view http://www.350zhatchshocksandmore.com/Harness_Bar.htm bar and was wondering if the BCR harness bar falls into regulations for SCCA? jw has I frequent auto-x alot in hawaii.
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They should fall under scca rule.
i'm still waiting for this question to be answered..
For those of you who have the race seat down to the floor, how do you go about placing the harness bar so that it's horizontal to the seat? There is interference with rear speaker so the bar can't be lowered as much you drop the seat.
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i'm still waiting for this question to be answered..
For those of you who have the race seat down to the floor, how do you go about placing the harness bar so that it's horizontal to the seat? There is interference with rear speaker so the bar can't be lowered as much you drop the seat.
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