Hey guys i dont have the stock brembos, and im deciding on monday what tobuy next, do i go front big brake upgrade or tein flex coilovers with edfc, i do alot of autocross and wnat to start going to sebring and homestead and roebling, you guys think i would be better off buying a brake kit or the coilovers ordering monday so you opinions would be great thanx guys

 

i promise that if you start putting your car on the track, you WILL destroy the stock non-brembo brakes. i know from experience. i upgraded to someone's track model brakes, and it made all the difference in the world. so, i think you know my vote.

sean

 

You would gain more in from the Tein's in auto-x than you would the BBK. However, the BBK would be more useful on the track than on the auto-x circuit. Thats a tough choice.

What I would do is get the Tein's, skip the EDFC (BIG waste of $$ IMO) and use that extra cash to buy a good set of pads, stainless brake lines, and high temp brake fluid. That way, you'll get the best of both worlds and have improved performance both with auto-xing and on the track.

 

+1 for the BBK. My buddy took his Enthusiast to the track and destroyed his stock brakes (pads & rotors).

BBK=Survival
Coilovers=Going Faster

First survive... then look at getting quicker... IMHO

 

Go for the brakes. They'll let you get the most out of your track time, and will thus let you enjoy the later mods that much more as you won't be having to worry about your brakes as you enter each braking zone.

 

I vote BBK as well. I got through 10 track events with the stock brakes and I have to say the upgrade to the 13" stoptech kit was worth the cash. No more worrying about the brakes everytime I enter a corner, plus much less brake fade (if any). The pedal use to go to the floor after a couple of sessions. I got to the point where I warped a set of brake pads and said enough of these stock brakes.

 

I concur. Also a good set of Track rims with sticky R rubber on them would probably help you the most.

 

Brakes

Before you want to do anything faster - corner or accelerate, you need to stop faster. The stock brakes are great for traffic, but leave a lot to be desired when you start pushing them.

 

i listened to you guys and ordered the front stoptech kit, 13.1 i think in the front, im assuming that my stock rears will be ok with diff pads, but i plan on purchasing the rear brembos later, just wondering but the price i got was 1695 and it sounded good is that a good price and will my rears be fine with diff pads and obviously different brake fluid

 

good choice, imo. better to be safe with brakes that aren't gonna fade than to get a little bit faster.

btw, i saw you driving on us1 in south miami a couple weeks ago when i was home for spring break. your car looks sick.

 

thanx man yea i live right by there, and i figured that with the breaks im just going to continue to learn my car at the track and when i feel its time to get a little more serious ill get the coilovers but for now springs and the sway bars i plan to get soon will be good

 

I concur...you will fry your stock enthusiast brakes. I demolished mine just for sh#ts and giggles when I first got the car. I did about 3-4 full blast laps at Pocono South Course (not even a tough track on brakes), and they were pretty much useless. Don't mess with your suspension until you reach the limits of the stock setup.

At the very least, swap in some race pads and good fluid (like Motul RBF600) if you don't want to plunk down the money for the full BBK. For autocross or your first time out on a road course (depends on the track), this may be all you need. Once you start getting faster though, you'll find yourself running out of heat capacity, and you'll start to fade your brakes. It's a really bad feeling when the bumper of the car in front rushes up as your brake pedal slowly slides to the floor.

 

j.ritt do you know if my stock rear calipers with diff pads will work fine at the track????????????

 

The stock rear brakes with upgraded pads will be fine for the track. Just don't plan on them lasting longer than 2 or 3 track days.....

Upgrading the rotors will also help, as will removing the rear brake dust shield.

 

so im guessing i need to purchase a rear brake kit also, hopefully someone will be selling a used rear brembo brake kit, this car is becoming so expensive its ridiculous i mean i bought a sports car but i cant take it on the track without spending another 4000 dollars on just brakes alone it really amazes me, i would figure the rear brakes wouldnt be a problem, what do you guys suggest, axxis pads with stoptech rotors in the rear??

 

and so everyone knows i ordered the 13. w/e front bbk for my car assuming my rears would be ok but i guessed wrong

 

hey wats up man you might know i just purchased the stoptech 13 inch front bbk, and nothing for the rear i dont have the brembos, i want to run track every once a month or so will these be fine and most importantly will my stock rears be able to handle the track abuse? and also what are the specs on the stoptech kit, like how many inches are the rotors exactly and will they be able to handle the track abuse thanx wat do you recommend pad wise and rotor wise for the rear and brake lines to if you know??

 

My recommendation is to try just the front kit and see what you think. I run only our front kit. As EnthuZ said, you will simply have to swap out your rear pads more frequently, since they'll only last a couple of events. That will depend on the track you're driving, and how many events you do. The good thing is, the rear pads are cheap.

Axxis Ultimate street performance pads for the rear of the 2004 Nissan 350Z except Track Model.
$39.95 - Item No. 63-223-0905

If you only do one day on the track per month, you get 3 months out of one of these sets of pads, or 4 sets per year. That's $160 in rear pads per year. The rear 2 piston brake kit costs $2295. $2295/$160=14.34. At that rate, it would take you 14 years to justify the expense of the rear setup on pad cost alone. With some practice, you can do a rear pad change in about 15-20 minutes total, both sides, including jacking up the car and taking off the wheels.

That said, a lot of people don't want the hassle of having to swap out the rear pads...some want to play with friction...and some simply want something in the rear that looks awesome like the front. Therefore, the rear kit is a great option for these people.

 

[QUOTE=J Ritt]My recommendation is to try just the front kit and see what you think. I run only our front kit. As EnthuZ said, you will simply have to swap out your rear pads more frequently, since they'll only last a couple of events. That will depend on the track you're driving, and how many events you do. The good thing is, the rear pads are cheap.

Axxis Ultimate street performance pads for the rear of the 2004 Nissan 350Z except Track Model.
$39.95 - Item No. 63-223-0905


Jeff:
Hawk HPS or Axxis Ultimate for rear pads on your car at track?

 

i was thinking of running axxis pads or hps on the rear for everyday and then one of the carbotech race pads during track days so ill probs do that