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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Question Poll: Best Coilover setup?

Looking at the reviews on the sticky thread & some of the reviews posted through a search function, I've narrowed down my choices of coilovers to HKS Hypermax II, Buddy Club & Zeal V6.

I use my car as a daily driver to work about 30 miles a day (local streets), and mostly as a street car. I'd track the car but I do not have the funds to do so regularly so throw that out the window, but I will do canyon runs occasionally with friends. Given that list of uses what would be the best coilover of the three to get for stock level of comfort in ride, ride-height adjustability, ease of dialing in settings, performance, & price?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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wtf?

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/146520-need-advice-on-coilovers.html
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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He modified his post vs the original one. By starting a new thread he's showing he wants a clean slate on the discussion. I won't hammer him for that.

The way I see it is like this. The Zeal is in the top spot because brand reputation elsewhere and from posted 350Z user experiences pretty much perfectly match what your looking for in a coilover. However, Buddy club does bring us a new revised setup that is very promising and for a lot less money. However, since it is soo new we really don't have the same amount of review's to know if it stack's up to the zeals, in spite of the price differance. I dunno, if you don't blink at the Zeal's price, hand's down buy them your done. If price makes you pause, that may be telling you to try the buddy clubs.

Just to say it, I don't see the HKS II's as meeting your want's and needs.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Jic
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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From what I've heard, JIC owners have had numerous problems with their supension & other products. Anywhere from breaking down, to downright horrible customer service... if i'm gonna spend over 1.5k on anything it better not break quickly and I better not get bad customer service for revalving or replacing of shocks.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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I said this in your other thread, but I almost 99% positive that HKS USA does not sale the Hypermax II anymore. You can get it but they have to get it from Japan and this is called grey market and HKS will not provide a warranty with the product. The next best HKS suspension is the RS.

If I didn't care about spending money I would go with the Zeal. If money was a factor, I might go with the HKS RS. You also might want to look at KW Suspensions.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Thanks for the info thawk408, but I could've sworn I read in the sticky thread that HKS is bringing over US support for replacement & repairs of their shocks. The KW suspension looks interesting as well from the review of the product, and its unique feature of being able to adjust rebound, & compression.
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Kw does not have full length adjustment, you cannot make ride height changes without effecting spring preload level's and the amount of suspension travel. Also, you would do well to replace the excessively progressive rear springs with a set of Eibach ESS springs with the same rate that is near the KW rear peak. In addition, while the ability of the KW variant 3's to adjust indepently for compression and rebound is nice, keep in mind that is a area of tuning that not a great deal of people have the abilty to do correctly or sense when their adjustments went in a positive or a negitive direction.

KW coilovers Variant's 1,2&3
Monotube construction,
V1=non adjustable dampning,
V2=adjustable damping,
V3=separate adjustability for compression damping AND rebound damping
Spring rates Front 485lbs to 525Lbs Rear: 240Lbs to 548Lbs (progressive springs)
Notes: High progressive rear spring rate spread can be fixed easily with Eibach ESS springs in place of the KW rear springs, cheap fix at only $100 for a pair.

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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HKS Hipermax RS
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsedan35
Kw does not have full length adjustment, you cannot make ride height changes without effecting spring preload level's and the amount of suspension travel. Also, you would do well to replace the excessively progressive rear springs with a set of Eibach ESS springs with the same rate that is near the KW rear peak. In addition, while the ability of the KW variant 3's to adjust indepently for compression and rebound is nice, keep in mind that is a area of tuning that not a great deal of people have the abilty to do correctly or sense when their adjustments went in a positive or a negitive direction.

KW coilovers Variant's 1,2&3
Monotube construction,
V1=non adjustable dampning,
V2=adjustable damping,
V3=separate adjustability for compression damping AND rebound damping
Spring rates Front 485lbs to 525Lbs Rear: 240Lbs to 548Lbs (progressive springs)
Notes: High progressive rear spring rate spread can be fixed easily with Eibach ESS springs in place of the KW rear springs, cheap fix at only $100 for a pair.
Are you sure you can get the ESS? I called Eiback awhile ago and they said the only springs they make for the Z are progressive, which are not the ESS.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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HKS RS hands down best daily driver and a good track setup
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
Are you sure you can get the ESS? I called Eiback awhile ago and they said the only springs they make for the Z are progressive, which are not the ESS.

I've alway's enjoyed talking with the tech's at Eibach and they are right, they don't make a linear spring for the Z. But, if you think outside the box, and look hard enough you will find that they make a line of springs that are the same outside diameter as our oem rear springs, sold in several free lengths and a you name it choice of spring rates. Those springs are the ESS springs.

For the front, you need to come up with something like I'm running right now as they don't make a spring that is 70mm at the bottom and 90mm at the top, but Tein does
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsedan35
I've alway's enjoyed talking with the tech's at Eibach and they are right, they don't make a linear spring for the Z. But, if you think outside the box, and look hard enough you will find that they make a line of springs that are the same outside diameter as our oem rear springs, sold in several free lengths and a you name it choice of spring rates. Those springs are the ESS springs.

For the front, you need to come up with something like I'm running right now as they don't make a spring that is 70mm at the bottom and 90mm at the top, but Tein does
What springrate are the Teins?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
What springrate are the Teins?
You can only use them if you do a coilover conversion or machine a adaptor to change the lower mount to be flat. If I had a Tokico D-spec shock in hand, I think I could make such a adaptor

Here why the spring won't work with the oem lower mount.


This is what I did to make it work



They are sold in 1Kg increment's, from 3Kg up to 20Kg.

http://www.tein.com/stsp.html
Look at the chart "Taper type" and only at the I.D. 70mm-90mm side
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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these ESS springs have intrigued me. they seem perfect for those that want to choose their spring rate, spring length.
as to not highjack actionjacksons poll or thread, i started a new thread to ask more questions

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/147543-eibach-ess-springs-questions.html

thanks
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Zeal coilovers one of the best and servicable in us.
buddy cluba and hks i am not sure of...
if i am speding 2k + then i want to be able to use it all the time instead of having 3+ months worth of downtime getting it shipped to japan then back here...
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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damn so much stuff to learn...
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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how much r u looking to spend on coilovers??
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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I got a deal where I could get any suspension setup for 1200-2800 w/install doesn't matter which suspension.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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+1 for Zeal
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