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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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Hi, does anyone have any info on the stopping distances of Z's equipt with stock brakes and brembo brakes? I'm trying to decide on the Enthusiast and Track edition, even though I found a 05 35th anniversary editon for a decent price ($25k w/ 4k miles on it). Anyway, if someone has info on the stock brakes vs. brembos please post, thanks!
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:04 AM
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I don't have any stopping distances handy, but com'on...they're Brembo's, dude, what more could you ask for?? Other than replacing the stock brakes with aftermarket pieces ($$), this is the best deal going.

BTW, I very much enjoy my 35th anniversary Edition Z, Brembo brakes and all!
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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i dont know the numbers of hand either, but they're probably about the same.

the benefits of brembos are that they have a higher heat capacity, allowing them to better resist fade- ie theyll be closer to meeting that stopping distance after repeating the test several times than the oem brakes would be.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tekk
i dont know the numbers of hand either, but they're probably about the same.

the benefits of brembos are that they have a higher heat capacity, allowing them to better resist fade- ie theyll be closer to meeting that stopping distance after repeating the test several times than the oem brakes would be.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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What tekk said.

Another point is that if you plan on getting a Big Brake Kit in the future then it's best to get the brembo package since it will cost more buying aftermarket one and getting them installed. They are a great deal getting them OEM. I wish I could have found a brembo touring deal.

It's scarying how this article was totally made for this thread:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/Testing_Brakes.htm

"Now it was time to test the 350Z Performance Model, which comes from Nissan with single-piston, floating calipers and much smaller rotors. We were all very interested to see how the two factory cars would compare. After ten stops from 60mph, the front rotor temperature stabilized at around 700 °F, 135 degrees higher than the track model. The rear rotor temperatures reached 478 °F, which was 108 degrees higher than the Track model. The average stopping distance was 118.0 feet, which was less than one foot longer than the Track model. Very interesting. We figured the difference would become more significant at higher speeds, so we pressed on."

"After six stops from 80mph, and then four stops from 100 mph, the front rotors reached 804 °F and the stopping distances began to increase as fade set in. I began to wonder which way to dive if the car couldn't stop, but figured the test driver would expect us to stay still and would swerve around us. I kicked myself for not asking about this before we started! Stopping distances from 80mph and 100mph averaged 210.5 and 333.6 feet respectively. That's within 5 feet at 100 mph and within 2 feet from 80 mph of the 350Z Track Model's performance. The Brembo brakes didn't seem to make a significant difference on stopping performance until the cars started doing repeated 100mph stops, at which point the increased thermal capacity of the bigger rotors kept brake fade at bay, while the Performance model with smaller brakes began to experience fade."

So the normal brake system has a shorter stopping distance then the brembo if you are not tracking and just on the streets. The only thing I can guess on why this happens is because the Brembo system are much heavier then the normal brakes so there is more weight to stop? Don't know.

Originally Posted by tekk
i dont know the numbers of hand either, but they're probably about the same.

the benefits of brembos are that they have a higher heat capacity, allowing them to better resist fade- ie theyll be closer to meeting that stopping distance after repeating the test several times than the oem brakes would be.

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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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couldn't give you numbers but man i luv my brembos
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I love the way the peek out at me through my Nismo 19's.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bugsbbunny
Hi, does anyone have any info on the stopping distances of Z's equipt with stock brakes and brembo brakes? I'm trying to decide on the Enthusiast and Track edition, even though I found a 05 35th anniversary editon for a decent price ($25k w/ 4k miles on it). Anyway, if someone has info on the stock brakes vs. brembos please post, thanks!
its been proven on the dyno that you'll lose rwhp with a big brake kit, but then again you can't complain the way the Brembo brakes perform on the track.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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80-0 stopping distance: 202 ft.

70-0 stopping distance: 153 ft.

60-0 stopping distance: 112 ft.
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Originally Posted by Ztalker
its been proven on the dyno that you'll lose rwhp with a big brake kit, but then again you can't complain the way the Brembo brakes perform on the track.
Really? How would brakes have any impact on the dyno?
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bugsbbunny
Hi, does anyone have any info on the stopping distances of Z's equipt with stock brakes and brembo brakes? I'm trying to decide on the Enthusiast and Track edition, even though I found a 05 35th anniversary editon for a decent price ($25k w/ 4k miles on it). Anyway, if someone has info on the stock brakes vs. brembos please post, thanks!

geez man, thats a sweet deal, where did you find that at?
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Big Brake Kit comes with bigger rotors which mean a heavier weight that the drivetrain has to spin...

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Really? How would brakes have any impact on the dyno?
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bugsbbunny
Hi, does anyone have any info on the stopping distances of Z's equipt with stock brakes and brembo brakes? I'm trying to decide on the Enthusiast and Track edition, even though I found a 05 35th anniversary editon for a decent price ($25k w/ 4k miles on it). Anyway, if someone has info on the stock brakes vs. brembos please post, thanks!
The Brembos are much better than the base brakes in both pedal feel and endurance. You won’t need to change them for track use anytime soon.

If you plan to upgrade the brakes anyways, than consider getting a bas-er model to save money. If not, get the 35th !

What’s your other option for Z? An ’06? Remember that in ’05, only the Track and 35th have the 300hp rev-up engine (standard in ’06).
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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The brakes don't stop the car the tires stop the car and the brakes stop the tires.

If the brakes have enough stopping power to engage the antilock brake system, the stopping distances will be no shorter. Hence essensially the same stopping distances for the different brakes in the Zeckhausen study- for one stop anyway.

Thermal capacity is what you get with larger brakes- the ability to stop from high speed consistently over and over again.

Also big, ridgid brakes may have better "feel" and are easier to use in trail braking during corner entry at the track.
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