Most things you want to know about springs/dampers (non-coilover)
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
No theT2 springs were not fine with oem shocks, way too much underdampning. You really should have known better then to run twice the spring rate. Even on oem springs they aren't the greatest shocks. I ran them for a week with 448lbs rates and they were patheticly inferior to Koni yellow's with the same spring. If your going to make real use of what you have now you've got to be a whole lot more honest with yourself. Everyone has to establish when they've reached the most productive spring rate level. What may be your ideal may be someone else's lower ET's because they can't keep the tires in contract with the pavement.
But this is my first time playing around with the suspension, and obviously you have far more experience in this category, so I won't argue.
Gsedan35 and XuperXero: did you all note the wierd coil diameter change on the top coil of the front T2 springs? I still have them sitting in the closet, and when I was mating them to my TCKR dampers the other day, the springs simply don't fit with the upper OEM rubber mount, and hardly fit with the metal hats. It seems that coil narrows about .25" or so at that point... very wierd design...
Also, do you all have the recommended settings from TCKR available to post?
Also, do you all have the recommended settings from TCKR available to post?
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
I'd be all over the TcKlines "IF" they had shortened bodies and piston rods. But, for just a little more I can get Truechoice Phase IV shocks with the same overall specs and they have the shortened bodies and piston rods that I have to have.
Glad to know you like the D-spec shock and spring combo. I was hoping running those springs with their shocks was the missing link. Those springs didn't work so well with Koni shocks as I've mentioned before.
Glad to know you like the D-spec shock and spring combo. I was hoping running those springs with their shocks was the missing link. Those springs didn't work so well with Koni shocks as I've mentioned before.
Originally Posted by azula
very nice write up man, i think i'ma go with the tokico's myself...
friz
Originally Posted by John
Gsedan35 and XuperXero: did you all note the wierd coil diameter change on the top coil of the front T2 springs? I still have them sitting in the closet, and when I was mating them to my TCKR dampers the other day, the springs simply don't fit with the upper OEM rubber mount, and hardly fit with the metal hats. It seems that coil narrows about .25" or so at that point... very wierd design...
Also, do you all have the recommended settings from TCKR available to post?
Also, do you all have the recommended settings from TCKR available to post?
As for recommended settings, I emailed TC Klines and asked them for some settings, this is the reply I got:
Compression is on the bottom of the shock/ 13 positions. Rebound is on
the top 2- 2.5' revolutions are available for adjustment. There is no
such thing as factory settings. However I can recommend starting
TRACK/AUTOCROSS settings to you. For the street, just choose what feels
good to you.
Rebound: FRONT- full firm -1 turn REAR full firm -1/2 turn
Compression: FRONT- full firm -8 clicks REAR full firm -4 clicks
4163 Lyman Dr Hilliard, OH 43026
Pete Stackhouse
Sales Manager
Ph 614.771.7744 Fax 614.771.4913
pete@tcklineracing.com
the top 2- 2.5' revolutions are available for adjustment. There is no
such thing as factory settings. However I can recommend starting
TRACK/AUTOCROSS settings to you. For the street, just choose what feels
good to you.
Rebound: FRONT- full firm -1 turn REAR full firm -1/2 turn
Compression: FRONT- full firm -8 clicks REAR full firm -4 clicks
4163 Lyman Dr Hilliard, OH 43026
Pete Stackhouse
Sales Manager
Ph 614.771.7744 Fax 614.771.4913
pete@tcklineracing.com
Thanks - I was just looking for some baseline settings although I have some other settings for the track.
Odd - even with just trying to piece the round peg (rubber mount) to round hole (spring) individually, they don't fit. I'll have to get off my lazy *** later this morning and post pics as the metal hat really doesn't look like it'll fit with the spring either (I suspect the end of the coil will cut into the hat once the weighted with the body of the car).
Originally Posted by XuperXero
I didn't have any problems with fitting the rubber mount...
OK, my little dilemma here. Note in the first two photos how the coil diameter decreases at the top of the spring. On the third photo, note how the inside of the top coil contacts the inside of the strut hat. On the fourth photo you can see the rubber mount won't fit without cutting off the bottom portion.
I'm a bit hesitant to complete the install as I worry that the contact between the inside of the top spring coil and the strut hat will apply a lateral force he shaft of the strut - thus ruining the damper...
I'm a bit hesitant to complete the install as I worry that the contact between the inside of the top spring coil and the strut hat will apply a lateral force he shaft of the strut - thus ruining the damper...
Interesting... Mine was not like that at all... The rubber mount and hat just slipped in on top without a problem for me. It appears that either your rubber mount and hat may be oversized or the nismo springs may be undersized.
Perhaps you might have got the wrong nismo springs? Although, it does look pretty identical to mine...
edit: My springs coil diameter shortens a bit at the top as well. Still doesn't make sense why it wouldn't fit.
Perhaps you might have got the wrong nismo springs? Although, it does look pretty identical to mine...
edit: My springs coil diameter shortens a bit at the top as well. Still doesn't make sense why it wouldn't fit.
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