so anywho, after my zeal coilover install, i decided to buy only the best camber arms on the market: Battleversion. company owned and produced by none other than Alex Pfieffer. formely part of many race teams, he decided to make part for car that all carry the same goal, to be the best at great prices.

www.battleversion.com


to start off alex himself makes his own parts only using the high end stuff. awsome spherical bearings, aluminum rods...etc, none of that rubber bushing sh*t found in so many parts today. spc, jic, stillen dont hold a candle. if any of you know me, youknow that i dont stand for crap/cheaply made products. anywho, here are some pics of his work:




corner balance:





Stillen camber arms : $439.00
JIC camber arms: $403.00
Battleversion arms: $275.00 and they are by far superior in every way!

version 2.0 soon to come for my car

 

JIC doesn't use rubber bushings on their camber arms, they use polyurethane or delrin - something pretty hard like that along with a tubular inner bearing - not a true spherical bearing though I don't think, but it's not like that arm is going to be rotating sideways. The JIC are also WAY thicker than the battle version or any other camber arm I've seen - like 50-60% thicker (look how thick the bushings are in relation to the arms in both pics) They're made of steel, which is stronger than aluminum, but they're also hollow so they're not all that heavy

I like the battleversion arms though, looks like a high quality part. The spherical ball bearing is nice and their price is low for what you get

I previously had SPC arms and the rubber bushing in them are just as squishy as stock

 

exactly, BV's look good, but the best??? wheres the proof? or is that just personal opinion?

 

It sounds more like he got a good deal on them and now touts them as the best.

 

Nice. I was thinking about those but I wanted rear toe to be in-spec without using a true coilover design in the rear. So SPC it is.

Now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't have been that difficult to make a custom rear adjustable toe bolt off the in-board side of the spring bucket.

 

he knows us other guys that run battleversion stuff havent broken them after rough attacks on their integrity almost every weekend. I specifically chose them for the heim joints. personally id never buy JIC(expensive, fall apart) or stillen(i would never give money to that company) parts, and i know nothing about spc.

 

never said jic uses rubber, said that they dont hold a candle to the BV arms.

not really. you have to see what these arm can go through i guess. my 400hp corolla has broken the likes of cusco,ueo style, technotoy tuning and many other parts, but the BV arms have held up to the test. guess you dont really need them if you dont track the car anyways, but then again why do people buy jic's and stillen if they dont do that.

 

and why don't they hold a candle to the battle version arms?

 

The JIC arms fall apart? what exactly falls apart on them? Do their TIG welds break or something?

 

because they use inferior rod ends that over time will wear and develop slop. thus leading to premature wear on your tires, eventually leading to the demise of the actual rod end, ultimatley leading to the rod end actually falling apart/failing and breaking. wouldnt want this to happen on a track day ...

 

just like everything else they make as far as i know from everyone at the track days i go to

but seriously,
their rod ends will wear, their shocks will blow and leak, their tie rods snap etc..

 

I just got a set of their tie rods and they're way thicker than the stock ones. How can they possibly snap before the stock ones do??? I mean, the thickness isn't even close, they're like almost twice as thick

are you talking about the Z JIC parts or what they make for other cars?

I have heard of a few of their coilovers leaking though

 

member here, 03z33 has had 3 or 4 snap on him i think.

edit: sentry, you got alot of bracing uder there, notice a huge difference? contemplating on ordering up some myself.

 

hmm weird:

yeah the bracing makes a difference

 

thats because he used to work for jic at the time he posted. feel free to pm him if you like

 

03z33 also had his JIC exhaust fall apart(on the freeway!!!), and i dont remember if he had any problems with his coilovers, but i know many others have and its close to impossible to get jic to do anything about any product problems.

 

damn this threads going faster than i can keep up, yeah he worked for JIC so he had everything jic, he doesnt anymore...

 

lol, i remember that. fell off on the freeway right? he still drove it without a muffler as well for a while...haha\

last time i spoke to him he said his shocks were leaking so bad they didnt have anymore oil in them, basically running on springs.

 

i havent seen 03z33's car out from under the cover in months, i think he orders some super function Rs to replace the JICs.

oh for the record, none of us work or sell battleversion, but we have gotten to know the guy since I started using his parts a couple years ago.
he also does great fabrication, ill show you my cage if your ever in CA and want to check it out.

 

SPL already makes something similar

scroll almost to the bottom.
http://www.splparts.com/Parts/Z33/Su...nk/default.asp