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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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What do you guys think about the camber kits from these people: http://www.k-mac.com.au/makes/nissan.htm

I was thinking of ordering both front and rear. Any thoughts?

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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I'm interested too, seeing that its $100 less than the JIC Keep us posted on what you find. Thanks.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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You cannot adjust the front camber on the shock plates for the Z33.
The 350EVO will soon be releasing our front upper A arms, rear lower camber arms and trailing arms, front and rear sway bars (both adjustable) poly urethane bushing kit, adjustable sway bars links, new rear sway bar brackets and lots more.
All our parts are developed through our motorsport program.
We are racing with Schuitemaker Motorsports Nissan 350Z in the Grand Am Cup Endurance series racing in the GS2 class.
We have our second race of the season this weekend at Homestead, Florida.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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This is what it said on the web site: "Replaces upper / inner control arm bushes providing separate Camber and Caster adjustment (includes bush extraction tool)."

I did not see anything mentioned about adjustments at the shock plates?

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Jeff, that is what I read too. BUT $320US seems damn steep for 4 bushings and 4 AN bolts!

Stillen has some rear camber arms coming soon. Not too sure I want rod ends for the street though:
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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D*mn pic didn't attatch!
Attached Thumbnails Front & Rear Camber Kits Available-stillenis-new-rear-camber-adjusters.jpg  
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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It does seem steep for what you’re getting. It is a lot less than JIC's camber kit at $495.00 though. $100-150 would seem more reasonable.

It is coming down to $600+ for camber kits or $1000+ for tires wearing out prematurely. What to do?

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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It is coming down to $600+ for camber kits or $1000+ for tires wearing out prematurely. What to do?
I don't think camber is the issue. I think it has been stated that even after camber adjustments, after 3000-4000 the feathering came back. The root cause seems to be one of two things: 1. The bounce caused by the oversprung/underdampered suspension, or 2. Suspension geometry (along with other factors such as weight distribution).

I think your best bet is to go with an aftermarket suspension that has well matched springs and shocks, it seems to me if the wheels stay planted on the ground, the feathering will go away. Someone correct me if I am wrong, this is speculation on my part.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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jran76,

No, what I meant to convey is that I am having the JIC FLT-A2 suspension installed next week and I am dropping the car 1" to 1.5". I am worried about excessive inner tire wear due to camber that will be out of spec.

The rear has some adjustment from the factory but not enough to compensate for the 2 - 3 degrees I will be off. And of course the front is not adjustable.

I am doing the suspension in hopes of alleviating both the bounce and tire feathering issues but I want to do it right and not create other issues as a result of bad camber.

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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I just contacted those folks to see if they can shed some light. Just like downshift said, Last tiem i checked you can only ajust the front via longer adjustable arms. We shall see.

Also last I checked the rear could only be done with adjustable rods like shown.

PS- where did you get that rod picture?

Right now my buddy and I are making adjustable rods for MUCH less then JIC is selling them for. IF the market is already flooded, I may just back out and stick with a set just for me
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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wadd3456,

After re-reading that site it appears that their kit replaces the upper/inner arm bushings to allow for camber and castrer adjustment.

Does it make sense for you to fabricate something like that rather than adjustable rods? Will that even work? Apparantly they are selling them??????

I would be interested in a camber solution that you can provide. I don't think the market is flooded. Other than JIC these guys are the only other place that I have found that has something on the market now. In fact these guys are the only ones I have seen with a front solution.

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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They might be able to do some adjustment by not replacing the control arm in the front but it will probably be minimal like you currently do in the rear, if you are going to drop the car you will need control arms that can be adjusted more.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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They claim up to 2 degrees of adjustment vs 3/4 of one degree or less adjustment available stock.

I was talking to a guy who lowered about an inch and was able to bring the camber within .8 degrees of spec. Of course the lower you go the more out of spec.

It seems that a 2 degree adjustment would be enough for most applications?

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It all depends, in the front for example I have one side that is almost at the maximum of -1.33, the actual reading is 1.3 so I would like to bring it in slightly even if I don't lower it to at least -0.5 or less to try to avoid repeat of tire wear, so if I lower it I would definetly want to adjust it, I don't know how much the camber changes from dropping but I think new front upper control arms are my future.
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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jran76,

No, what I meant to convey is that I am having the JIC FLT-A2 suspension installed next week and I am dropping the car 1" to 1.5". I am worried about excessive inner tire wear due to camber that will be out of spec.

The rear has some adjustment from the factory but not enough to compensate for the 2 - 3 degrees I will be off. And of course the front is not adjustable.

I am doing the suspension in hopes of alleviating both the bounce and tire feathering issues but I want to do it right and not create other issues as a result of bad camber.

Jeff
Cool.... that's what happens when you ***-ume The camber rods should help....
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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I just ordered front and rear kits from these guys in Australia. They should be here next week so I plan on installing these along with the JIC FLT A2s. I will post pics and let you know how they work. They were a lot less than the JIC solution.

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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So it costs about $230 to lower with eibachs, then $650 to align it?
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Jeff,

Keep us posted please

and 2003z, your right on the money!
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Jeff, are you getting both the rear camber arms & the track bars? Keep us posted & of course post pics!

"where did you get that rod picture?"

I pm'd wadd, but I thought I'd share. On the Stillen web site, I subscribed to get E mails of updated products. They sent this a few days ago. No pricing though. I'll call tomorrow and hopefully find out.

My alignment is OK now, so no big hurry for me. I'll wait and see what everyone is offering. I wish 350EVO would post pics & pricing.

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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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EnthuZ,

I went with both front and rear camber arms and no traction bars for now. I will see how it goes and I can always add those later. I am excited that the front will now have all three adjustments, camber, toe, and caster. With caster adjustment I hope to improve steering response and the understeer issue plus flatter braking.

The front tire feathering issue should disapear for me.

The guys in Australia are open now so I had a nice chat with them and they said the kits work great and have enough compensation for most applications. We will see.

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