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Old 04-11-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Whats a good way to upgrade the Z brakes?

Anyway to make them better, without going BBK or crazy 5g setups
Old 04-11-2007, 11:40 AM
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I take it you are talking about the non-brembo z. Slotted rotors, SS brake lines, motul rb600, good set of pads. The stoptech stage 2 package is a good buy. I pieced my upgrade together, which consisted of all the above for about $450-500 total for all 4 corners.

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If you have the single piston front calipers, an upgrade to the dual piston 06+ calipers with the 12.6" rotors would do you some good
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Originally Posted by push
I take it you are talking about the non-brembo z. Slotted rotors, SS brake lines, motul rb600, good set of pads. The stoptech stage 2 package is a good buy. I pieced my upgrade together, which consisted of all the above for about $450-500 total for all 4 corners.
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Forget about fancy rotors.

Change the brake pads only.
Old 04-11-2007, 12:13 PM
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weight reduction, better tires, better brake pads, lighter wheels.

those would all help too.
Old 04-11-2007, 12:53 PM
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Go with a good rotor/pad combo...I'm doing the powerslots and Hawk HPS pads. I think I might do some braided lines too, but not quite as necessary...a good pad/rotor combo can do worlds for your braking ability.
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Is this for the street? If so, just get a good set of pads and maybe upgrade your fluid. You don't need to do rotors for the street unless you want something fancy to look at.
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Depending on his mileage it may be time for new rotors, if that's the case there is no reason to not get slotted. You wont spend any more than if you were to buy blanks, and it could help if he wanted to track/backroad drive.
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get lighter wheels and some new rotors.. also better quality brake bads.. thats all really
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Originally Posted by redlude97
If you have the single piston front calipers, an upgrade to the dual piston 06+ calipers with the 12.6" rotors would do you some good
Would it make that much of a difference? And do they mount in the same place and use the same brake lines? I got an 04, if I got the 06 calipers and rotors and some good pads would that be a good way to go?

Originally Posted by dave079
Stoptech Stage 2 kit. Its around $600
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Originally Posted by MyV6IsFast3r
Would it make that much of a difference? And do they mount in the same place and use the same brake lines? I got an 04, if I got the 06 calipers and rotors and some good pads would that be a good way to go?



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Depending on what you can get them for it may be worth it. For me though I'd rather just save that money and put it toward a bbk later. The 2 piston vs 1 piston will make the brakes slightly more responsive, and the extra inch of rotor will help. Is the 06+ rotor thicker?
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Originally Posted by Kolia
Forget about fancy rotors.

Change the brake pads only.
I disagree. I did slotted/drilled and ceramic pads. What a difference in the canyons! Great on track as well. I NEVER brake fade now. NEVER. painted while I was at it.

Low $$ outlay.

photos at www.wcsl.org/z
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Originally Posted by Beaker02
I disagree. I did slotted/drilled and ceramic pads. What a difference in the canyons! Great on track as well. I NEVER brake fade now. NEVER. painted while I was at it.

Low $$ outlay.

photos at www.wcsl.org/z
Had you kept the OEM rotors, you wouldn't have felt the difference. It's your money, I'm glad you're happy with your setup.

If one needs slots to counter pad fade, he's not using the correct pad application for his driving/car.
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Originally Posted by Beaker02
I disagree. I did slotted/drilled and ceramic pads. What a difference in the canyons! Great on track as well. I NEVER brake fade now. NEVER. painted while I was at it.

Low $$ outlay.

photos at www.wcsl.org/z
If your never get brake fade, you aren't REALLY DRIVING your car. Even BBK's fade when pushed hard enough
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Originally Posted by Kolia
Had you kept the OEM rotors, you wouldn't have felt the difference. It's your money, I'm glad you're happy with your setup.

If one needs slots to counter pad fade, he's not using the correct pad application for his driving/car.
Slotted rotors help with glazing as well. 11.6" diameter brakes, driving hard will get VERY hot and can glaze the pad, the slots help shave the pad and reduce/eliminate the glaze and always keeps the full face of the pad on the rotor.
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Originally Posted by push
Slotted rotors help with glazing as well. 11.6" diameter brakes, driving hard will get VERY hot and can glaze the pad, the slots help shave the pad and reduce/eliminate the glaze and always keeps the full face of the pad on the rotor.
Sorry, you won't convice me.

My discs will reach ~1,400F at the track. Oddly enough, pad fade has been extremely rare. Plain rotors are thougher, last longer. Paired with appropriate pads, they offer to most brake torque and longest lasting setup.


Yes, slots will "clean" the pad by wearing them down. Considering the rapid wear of the OEM brake system, is this really a wise choice? If I was the guy selling the pads and slotted rotors, the sooner I see you back in my shop for new brakes, the better.


I've worked for a top level factory race team. When a material engineer tells you to stay away from slots and holes after you've shown him your blown rotors, you listen...
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I got an 07, mostly street but i drive aggressive


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