tein basic?
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tein basic?
i am thinking of getting the tein basic coilovers. i'm looking for something basic but that won't have me bouncing around that much. my 350 is a daily driver. do u guys have any opinions,regrets on the tein basic? or should i go a step higher? and any input about the edfc are welcome. thanks
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ok i've been reading posts about coilovers, and the basic does not look like a good choice at all. it looks like hks, cusco, or upper models of tein. yone recommend the nismo coilovers?
Originally Posted by almond1294
i am thinking of getting the tein basic coilovers. i'm looking for something basic but that won't have me bouncing around that much. my 350 is a daily driver. do u guys have any opinions,regrets on the tein basic? or should i go a step higher? and any input about the edfc are welcome. thanks
Looking back to 2003, Basic owner comment's have generally been good, one very good review was written by Zillinois awhile back.
not sure I understand dampening rates well enough to make changes yet. So the basics were perfect for me. I have my first "real" track day in one week. So, I'll report back then. BTW, I have a 1" drop all the way around.
Originally Posted by zillinois
Got a chance to drive more today.
1. You can initiate a corner at a higher rate of speed than oem. Push is gone, yeah!!
2. Weight transfer is crisper and faster than oem with less body movement. Upon hard acceleration out of corners and on straights, the car squats a very small amount and hooks up in a very predictable manner.
3. Driving normally, very little difference in dampening is felt. But the car recovers more quickly from bumps. The damping in corners is much better than oem. Corrections are easy and quiet (quiet as in steering input).
4. You can accelerate out of the corner sooner. Errors at the apex or after turn-in no longer result in drastic snap to oversteer but respond to the steering input. The feedback and adjustment cycle is completed quickly with much less input and body movement than oem. If you enjoy sliding around corners, as I do sometimes, you will really enjoy the basics.
5. The Basic also holds the road better in uneven corners. The factory setup would tend to "feel" squirrely on uneven corners and the basics keep the tires on the ground better.
The only thing I don't like is that it such a subtle improvement. It only helps were it matters. But, I think it was money well spent. A definite improvement over oem in every respect. Problem 2; Now I have to learn how to exit a corner faster. :-(
I'm Also, I've done some Autox with the factory setup and I can't wait to try this out.
1. You can initiate a corner at a higher rate of speed than oem. Push is gone, yeah!!
2. Weight transfer is crisper and faster than oem with less body movement. Upon hard acceleration out of corners and on straights, the car squats a very small amount and hooks up in a very predictable manner.
3. Driving normally, very little difference in dampening is felt. But the car recovers more quickly from bumps. The damping in corners is much better than oem. Corrections are easy and quiet (quiet as in steering input).
4. You can accelerate out of the corner sooner. Errors at the apex or after turn-in no longer result in drastic snap to oversteer but respond to the steering input. The feedback and adjustment cycle is completed quickly with much less input and body movement than oem. If you enjoy sliding around corners, as I do sometimes, you will really enjoy the basics.
5. The Basic also holds the road better in uneven corners. The factory setup would tend to "feel" squirrely on uneven corners and the basics keep the tires on the ground better.
The only thing I don't like is that it such a subtle improvement. It only helps were it matters. But, I think it was money well spent. A definite improvement over oem in every respect. Problem 2; Now I have to learn how to exit a corner faster. :-(
I'm Also, I've done some Autox with the factory setup and I can't wait to try this out.
However, one thing I've noticed reading between the lines in a lot of the review's is common thread that kinda told me thier dampning performance might be lacking, this recent owner comment speaks up about that.
Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
the ride of the tein basics with stock wheels are just as bouncy/rough as stock 03's suspension with it being near 1" drop. If i were you, i'd get the springs or save up for something that's adjustable. I riden a z with the HKS coilovers..they are so nice and smooth.
I had a set of basics on my last car. I would not run these again. The lack of adjustment on something that i think is that stiff is just too brutal. I don't know how your roads are, but here they are a horrible setup. When i pulled them off to sell the car, i actually thought the stockers felt better.
basics are probably the best bang for the buck out there, but, as jason pointed out, it depends on where you are. it also depends on the application. for a daily driver on relatively smooth roads, they're great. not too stiff for me at all. the rate is less than 10kg/cm, which is pretty comfortable on almost any road. if you want something with adjustability, and a soft spring rate for daily driving, you should look into Tein CS coilovers. if you ever plan to track your car (road course or autocross), stick with the basics. if you don't care about road noise, pillow ball mount noise, ride stiffness, or comfort, you could go with something a little more expensive. hope that helps.
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