Detailing Suspension Differences
The previous thread had been closed just as we were getting to something good.
I wanted to explain a feature that the Tein Flex and JIC FLT-A2 both have which is favorable to that of most entry level coilovers.
The FLT's are monotube, Flex is twin tube. That's number one. Granted the monotube is a high pressure whereas the twin tubes are filled with low pressure nitrogen. Therefore the JIC's will be stiffer/more responsive/better feedback. Depends on your Butt Shock Dyno tastes.
The nicest feature IMO of both the Flex and FLT-A2 is that you don't adjust the height by lower the spring perch. The lower shock bracket is independent of the shock casing. Therefore you lower these suspensions by loosening the locking collar for the lower shock bracket and by spinning the bracket in a direction towards the upper mount will result in lowering the vehicle without sacrificing the relative suspensions ride quality. The only affect will really be the change in your CG as well as possible preload changes on the sway bars. But you still retain full suspension travel. This also alleviates the possible need for helper springs since your springs will always have some preload.
Analogy, Hondas you've seen bouncing on the freeway that are slammed to the ground on stock dampers with ground controls. They dumped the car so low that they're riding on bump stops. With the coilovers mentioned above you can drop the car and retain complete suspension travel. They are independent of each other.
The Tein Basic for example will still be a twin tube damper but you will need to lower the spring perch to lower the vehicle. So now you've got say 2 inches of suspension stroke where the spring is "loose" at full expansion. Those two inches are where you'd get a helper spring to help maintain preload on the main spring when the damper if fully expanded.
I'm sure most of you know this I thought I'd just try to explain it in case some haven't noticed the differences. There's a real good reason for why suspensions will vary in price.
Twin tube vs Monotube??
Twin perch vs Single perch system??
Pillowballs? Rigid Mounts??
These are the features I look for when trying to make a fair comparison in pricing.
I wanted to explain a feature that the Tein Flex and JIC FLT-A2 both have which is favorable to that of most entry level coilovers.
The FLT's are monotube, Flex is twin tube. That's number one. Granted the monotube is a high pressure whereas the twin tubes are filled with low pressure nitrogen. Therefore the JIC's will be stiffer/more responsive/better feedback. Depends on your Butt Shock Dyno tastes.
The nicest feature IMO of both the Flex and FLT-A2 is that you don't adjust the height by lower the spring perch. The lower shock bracket is independent of the shock casing. Therefore you lower these suspensions by loosening the locking collar for the lower shock bracket and by spinning the bracket in a direction towards the upper mount will result in lowering the vehicle without sacrificing the relative suspensions ride quality. The only affect will really be the change in your CG as well as possible preload changes on the sway bars. But you still retain full suspension travel. This also alleviates the possible need for helper springs since your springs will always have some preload.
Analogy, Hondas you've seen bouncing on the freeway that are slammed to the ground on stock dampers with ground controls. They dumped the car so low that they're riding on bump stops. With the coilovers mentioned above you can drop the car and retain complete suspension travel. They are independent of each other.
The Tein Basic for example will still be a twin tube damper but you will need to lower the spring perch to lower the vehicle. So now you've got say 2 inches of suspension stroke where the spring is "loose" at full expansion. Those two inches are where you'd get a helper spring to help maintain preload on the main spring when the damper if fully expanded.
I'm sure most of you know this I thought I'd just try to explain it in case some haven't noticed the differences. There's a real good reason for why suspensions will vary in price.
Twin tube vs Monotube??
Twin perch vs Single perch system??
Pillowballs? Rigid Mounts??
These are the features I look for when trying to make a fair comparison in pricing.
If you guys can I'd love to see the specs on other suspensions listed here. I'm talking with Endless/Zeal right now trying to get their kit when it's released. It will be monotube, twin perch system i'm pretty sure. But will cost more than the JIC's. lol.
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