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Old 04-17-2009, 08:44 AM
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Default Big brake kit for non brembozzz

has anyone tried this??

http://www.racingbrake.com/350Z_non_...1-311-0-01.htm

i think its pretty good for the money, for the same size rotors just 1 piece, is only $650.

Old 04-17-2009, 09:06 AM
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EDIT: My bad. I thought you were asking for opinions.

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Originally Posted by davidv
I see little point in spending $2,000 and simply relocating the OEM calliper. What did $2,000 get you? Rotors and pads?
Where do you get $2,000?

For $1,027.26, you get upgraded 2pc rotors(about 0.5lbs lighter than the small 11.5" oem rotors), pads and the relocation brackets. One can upgrade to bling calipers at a later time also



MSRP: $1,208.52
Sale Price: $1,027.26
You Save $181.26!


Part Number: 2001-311-0
Side: L/R
Position: FRONT
Size: 332x24mm (13.1" x 0.9")
Rotor Weight (lbs.): 14.4

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For that much... why not go with an actual BBK?
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Originally Posted by davidv
I see little point in spending $2,000 and simply relocating the OEM calliper. What did $2,000 get you? Rotors and pads?
where did you see anything on that link for $2,000??? i saw $1050 for the 2 piece rotors and caliper mounts, and 600 for the same thing except with 1 piece rotors instead 2 piece...
Old 04-17-2009, 09:58 AM
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Why not get the brakes that come with the sport pkg 370z? There $1200 and they come with everything you need.
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Originally Posted by freedonutss
Why not get the brakes that come with the sport pkg 370z? There $1200 and they come with everything you need.
havent seen those yet, i'll look into 'em.

I just like this kit, because for 1,000 bucks i can get up to 13" rotors, 2 piece, and slotted, with decent pads, not bad imo, and if i didnt want 2 piece, i could at least get the kit with the 1 piece rotors (still 13"), pads and brackets for only $650...
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Originally Posted by freedonutss
Why not get the brakes that come with the sport pkg 370z? There $1200 and they come with everything you need.
Because for that price you get rotors that weigh 26lbs vs 14.4lbs.
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Originally Posted by Spork
For that much... why not go with an actual BBK?
Such as?
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Because for that price you get rotors that weigh 26lbs vs 14.4lbs.
Ok so the rotors are 12 lbs heavier.... I wonder which one will outperform which on the track(for the price)? Tough one.
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Originally Posted by freedonutss
Ok so the rotors are 12 lbs heavier.... I wonder which one will outperform which on the track(for the price)? Tough one.
All the brake fade and the bonus of 10+ lbs of unsprung weight on each front wheel.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...7/pageNumber=1
We've noticed that the brakes in modern Hondas tend to wilt at the first sign of hard driving, yet the TL's brakes buck this trend. They haul the Acura to a halt from 60 mph in a scant 106 feet. This performance is matched by the G37, but the TL exhibits less brake fade than the Infiniti. Perhaps this marks the turning of a new leaf for future Honda offerings.


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Old 04-17-2009, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by freedonutss
Ok so the rotors are 12 lbs heavier.... I wonder which one will outperform which on the track(for the price)? Tough one.
12lbs per rotor difference is a good amount, i'd have to go with the 2 piece over the 370 sport kit.
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We installed the rear kit on Adam's car...

Edit: Just realized that this picture was prior to the install.

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When you guys mix/match these BBK parts, do you do the front/rear bias calculations?
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
When you guys mix/match these BBK parts, do you do the front/rear bias calculations?
Well the Endless front kit is designed to work with either any of the Endless rear kits or either one of the rear OEM setups (Brembo/Non-Brembo). The Racing Brake rear kit is more a big rotor kit than it is a BBK since you are still using the same rear stock caliper, so therefore the bias has not changed.
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Intersting, subscribed for more information
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You know you could always get a real BBK for around 2k

Full Kit: $1,995.00
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/C...173.17.159.246

Just the Fronts: 1,200.00
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/C...173.17.159.246


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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1
Well the Endless front kit is designed to work with either any of the Endless rear kits or either one of the rear OEM setups (Brembo/Non-Brembo). The Racing Brake rear kit is more a big rotor kit than it is a BBK since you are still using the same rear stock caliper, so therefore the bias has not changed.
IMHO, if you use a bigger (than oem) rotor, that will change the force applied and therefore change the front/rear bias. Whether or not it changes it significantly more then let's say an oem rear Brembo setup is probably what you are getting at?

If adding a rear bbk setup didn't change the bias (hopefully for the better), I'm not sure why it was done? Only for cosmetic reasons?
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
IMHO, if you use a bigger (than oem) rotor, that will change the force applied and therefore change the front/rear bias. Whether or not it changes it significantly more then let's say an oem rear Brembo setup is probably what you are getting at?

If adding a rear bbk setup didn't change the bias (hopefully for the better), I'm not sure why it was done? Only for cosmetic reasons?
No, you are correct. Changing the rotor size does change the brake bias since Torque equates to force multiplied by a moment arm and in this case the moment arm would be increasing due to the increased rotor size thereby increasing the amount of torque exerted which will also thereby increase the rear bias.

The question remains is how much would the rear bias be increasing? I really don't know the answer to this question currently but i'm sure if I sat down I would be able to calculate it since most of the other variables in the equation would be held constant.

As far as our reasoning it was for cosmetic reasons. The front BBK is more than adequate for the very few track days that this car sees.
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If the front BBK increased the brake force at all, then I'm sure the rear bbk addition is an improvement. The owner should be noticing less brake dive, less abs front lock and flatter braking


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