funny, there's always someone that could have bought the car at a lower price than you did. there's always someone that could have bought that home for a lower price than you did. there's always someone who knows exactly how to pick up the gorgeous babe.

reminds me of this big boy that was a loudmouth we used to have at the golf course. bought himself a modular home, and told everyone how he told them what the price was gonna be, and he got an absolute steal of a deal. the golf pro was from the same town where he bought the modular, and his brother worked for them part time, during installs. he had his brother check, and sure enough.........

Mike

 

Again, you seem to be missing the point of how to get the best deal from a dealership, if you think I'm nothing but talk then clearly you have no clue.

 

I stay out of these threads because I'm a salesman and they **** me off. I get tired of reading the same ******* replies or know-it-all consumers thinking they know the best way. Here's a hint: KBB, Edmunds, NADA... they all suck. If they say your car is worth that much, ****ing sell it to them.

 

i'd say there's so much that goes into the price or final price of a car that the average consumer hasnt any idea.

KBB, Edmunds, Cars.Com, etc, i never really put 100% confidence in their numbers. nor do i believe those "Dealer Invoice/Costs" figures either. and nope, i dont buy the BS that dealers and salesmen put out too.

its about like peace in the Middle East. aint ever gonna happen. just read the Bible. the only time there will be peace over there is when the Lord returns........

Mike

p.s. peace/truce Jeffie7, its all good.

 

KBB/Edmunds and such are great to base buying a new car off of. Used however is a different story. If a car is KBB trade in at 20K chances are the dealership low balled the hell out of the person so there's more room to go when buying it 2nd hand.

Either way, as long as a dealer believes you're serious about buying car, they will do what they can to make the deal. until they know that, they will just dick around and throw #s around till no end.

by age 23 I was on my 6th car and 5th motorcycle. I've done a lot of dealing.
Buying a motorcycle IMO is much harder then a car, motorcycle dealerships are friggin hard *****. Again, the sales people change a lot when they see money.

FWIW I paid 23K OTD with trade in of my 97 civic (offered me 1200 for the civic) back in 06 for my 04 TL, the KBB was 29,xxx.xx

also paid 24K for my 350Z back in 03, yes it is a base, but it was not many months after it came out. also came with 100K mile warranty bumper to bumper.

 

MOST dealers are going to be "honest" about invoice price because they still have hold-backs and are still making money. The company can still have a spin on it so the dealership makes money regardless so they don't mind discounting it. Like I said those, this is most. Not all companies work that way.

KBB is going to be closest to value but it's still not spot on. Request a Manheim Market Report for vehicles equipped the exact way yours is. That's the only way to get a fair idea of what it's worth.



Long story short though:
If you show up at my work and start barking orders at me, telling ME what you think your car is worth and I do this **** everyday, I'll give you your walking papers. You're not worth the headache when the next guy will pay sticker.

 

The next guy that is willing to pay sticker doesn't exist because those that are willing to pay sticker for a high volume low price point sports car are dumb, and if they're dumb, they're probably chin-deep in debt and worried about foreclosure to come and buy a new car.

 

Or that have enough money that they don't give a sh*t whether they pay $32 or $34. There is always someone who will pay sticker.

 

You're right, what do I know? I only see ite every day.

 

I gues noone else sells or used to sell cars, right??? You probably are in your twenties and have been in the car business for a few months and now you know it all. Hey buddy I forgot more about car sales than you peobably know. If you are a car salesman I feel for you, you sound like one of the Salesman who tell customers they can add cruise control to a Z...........

 

What a f'in Chachi you are, noone pays sticker nowadays, unless you work at a KIA dealership with credit criminals all over, and by your comments that would be my guess, maybe a buy here pay here.......

 

So Whitey did you get a car yet???????????????

 

Highly doubt it. I'd hate to be the cashier that asked him if he wanted "paper or plastic".

whitey: "Well that's a good question. If I go with paper, it's more than likely recycled which is a plus for mother nature. But if I go with plastic it's more sturdy and durable. Hold on, let me get on a forum and ask for everyone and their mother's opinion"
cashier: "Please someone end my life."

 

Dutchboy is right. decisions like this, for some reason or other, are extremely difficult for me.

we agreed on the price for that 2008, and then when they told me it was damaged i just threw my arms in the air, wondering what else can happen in this mess.

as far as the 2007 goes, i didnt really think they gave me a decent price, so the fact of the matter is i think i will just keep my $500 a month.

funny, i let them know this first thing this morning, that i wasnt interested. and now i have received three phone calls, three voice mails, and two text messages. one text msg the manager even said he had the car. wonder how that happened???

M

 

I wasn't going to say it, but it doesn't sound like you can really afford the car. Putting 2 and 2 together with your amount financed and payment, it Looks like (A) you're going into this with zero downpayment or just enough to break even on your trade or (B) your credit stinks. The difference in paying retail and dealership net net is $80/month. Which doesn't mean a whole lot if you have the personality and budget that truly affords a Z.

 

not really. i have $0 payments as i type this. just paid my SUV off in January, and just made my last mortgage payment.

the only thing i have to pay on is my $24,000 home equity line of credit. its a minimum of 1% each month. i'm single, no kids, no expensive habits, etc, etc. the bank said my credit rating was excellent.

the plan was to pay around $1,200 a month down on the home equity loan. but with a $500 350Z loan that would have brought the home equity monthly payment down to around $700 a month. the problem would be if i had unexpected bills, such as any dental bills, repairs on the other car, that all of a sudden would tax a guy.

M

 

i believe i just read on Edmunds and Cars.Com that the Manufacturer to Dealer incentive on the 2007 350Z is now $3,500, not $2,000, through June 30.

am i reading that right?

M

 

Lots of people pay sticker. My brother is a salesman at a low volume dealership (he is the lead salesman selling 12 vehicles per month) and he says he gets 1-2 people every few months who walk in, pay sticker, and leave. Takes 30 minutes to an hour at the most.

Some people have the money and would rather just buy the car instead of spending two weeks looking for the best deal, and then end up saving 2,000 dollars. It is all about time, and what their time is worth.

 

Nope.

 

Just wait till the place closes, find out where there key box is, and break in, pick whatever one you want. You got 5-8 minutes though.