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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Think about it this way.... the Z-2 that comes with the kit is 8oz. If you use a 1/2oz per application you'll get 16 application from a bottle. If you put one coat on once a month, it will last you 16 months. $100 spread over 16 months isn't that bad. After that, you'll only need some more Z-2 at $15 and that will last you another year or so.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Think about it this way.... the Z-2 that comes with the kit is 8oz. If you use a 1/2oz per application you'll get 16 application from a bottle. If you put one coat on once a month, it will last you 16 months. $100 spread over 16 months isn't that bad. After that, you'll only need some more Z-2 at $15 and that will last you another year or so.
If you're good at applying zaino it should only take 1/8 to a 1/4 oz for a layer. My first bottle of z2 lasted me exactly a year with me averaging 6 layers per month.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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The challenge with Pikes Peak White is the fist step: cleaning. I’ve worked with several waxes that make the surface look like mud. If you can get the car clean, then you are on your way to a happy shine.

I’m not going to recommend any specific product, but this is a simple test for clean. A white towel and some isopropyl alcohol. Put some isopropyl alcohol on a white towel. Choose an inconspicuous spot such as the lower door panel. Wipe with the towel. If the towel is dirty, then the car is dirty and you are not ready for wax.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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The challenge with Pikes Peak White is the fist step: cleaning. I’ve worked with several waxes that make the surface look like mud. If you can get the car clean, then you are on your way to a happy shine.

I’m not going to recommend any specific product, but this is a simple test for clean. A white towel and some isopropyl alcohol. Put some isopropyl alcohol on a white towel. Choose an inconspicuous spot such as the lower door panel. Wipe with the towel. If the towel is dirty, then the car is dirty and you are not ready for wax.
a better way of figuring that out is using a plastic bag. Put your fingers in a plastic bag then slide it across the paint, if it feels ruff and gritty your car needs to be clayed.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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i will be ordering some zaino soon.
I will be doing everything: claying + washing + waxing...

i have '04 and I guess my baby deserves a one day ZAINO - spa
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
a better way of figuring that out is using a plastic bag. Put your fingers in a plastic bag then slide it across the paint, if it feels ruff and gritty your car needs to be clayed.
Now that I think about it, the plastic bag test is probably better than alcohol. Once I put a white spot on the door, I have to work my butt off to get the rest of the car white.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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The plastic bag will only tell you if you have particles of dirt, dust or contamination on the surface. It won't tell you if you have old wax that needs to be removed - something that alcohol and a clean towel will tell.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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like i said i just ordered the whole kit, and will follow all the instructions. dawn wash, clay, rewash,etc. i just hope this works as good as everyone rants about.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
The plastic bag will only tell you if you have particles of dirt, dust or contamination on the surface. It won't tell you if you have old wax that needs to be removed - something that alcohol and a clean towel will tell.
the clay bar will remove old wax along with the contaminents.
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by idwin
like i said i just ordered the whole kit, and will follow all the instructions. dawn wash, clay, rewash,etc. i just hope this works as good as everyone rants about.
its not as good as everyone on this site would make it out to be, but its well worth the money.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by idwin
like i said i just ordered the whole kit, and will follow all the instructions. dawn wash, clay, rewash,etc. i just hope this works as good as everyone rants about.
Go to bed early, take your vitamins and eat a good breakfast. I use it on my PPW but there are equal products easier to use.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FatBoy1
Go to bed early, take your vitamins and eat a good breakfast. I use it on my PPW but there are equal products easier to use.
What products do you use?
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
the clay bar will remove old wax along with the contaminents.
Not really, the clay bar strips contaminants off the surface, whether it's the surface of the paint or the surface of the wax that's on top of the paint. Wash with a dish detergent like Dawn to remove the wax.

I claybarred overspray from a Zainoed car and it left the Zaino untouched. It still shined and beaded water just like it had been freshly Zainoed.

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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
its not as good as everyone on this site would make it out to be, but its well worth the money.
Why is it not as good as claimed?
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Originally Posted by FatBoy1
...I use it on my PPW but there are equal products easier to use.
I get the feeling you're trying to say that because of the Dawn wash, claying, etc., then that's harder to use them some other product.

No matter what you use, you need to have a clean surface to start with. Dawn wash and claybar is a must-do with any product you start using. You don't want to put your "easier" wax on top of a dirty surface, right?
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any comments on Z-6 vs Z-8?

is Z-8 worth buying?
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Not really, the clay bar strips contaminants off the surface, whether it's the surface of the paint or the surface of the wax that's on top of the paint. Wash with a dish detergent like Dawn to remove the wax.

I claybarred overspray from a Zainoed car and it left the Zaino untouched. It still shined and beaded water just like it had been freshly Zainoed.
zaino is different from car wax. Claybarring over zaino does not remove much if any of it. I've clayed over zaino several times and got the same results as you. However if its regular carnuaba wax and not a sealent, the clay will take the wax off.
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Originally Posted by nlsqba
any comments on Z-6 vs Z-8?

is Z-8 worth buying?
Absolutly, z8 is an amazing product.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EdgeOfSanity
zaino is different from car wax. Claybarring over zaino does not remove much if any of it. I've clayed over zaino several times and got the same results as you. However if its regular carnuaba wax and not a sealent, the clay will take the wax off.
True, that's the fundamental problem with carnuaba wax - just about anything will take it off.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Why is it not as good as claimed?
People on this site seem to think its the best stuff ever made for detailing cars. Its very good, but there are other products that will last about as long and look better. Zaino does not give as good of a shine as a quality carnauba in my opinion. It lacks the depth and wetness i'm looking for which is why i've started trying other combinations. I'm also less than impressed with zpc.
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