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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
it's because you are waxing over contaminants. Try polishing the car first.
Agree. I suspect that you are applying wax over dirt.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Get_Zwole
hey thanks greg that means alot man. Youll prob be hearing from me soon lol. Thanks to superblack for the help too. YOu guys might save me a couple hundred bucks and possibly my paint job cause i dont trust anybody in this state with it lol thanks again.
Sounds good. Like I said before I've helped people with all different levels of detailing skill and knowledge improve their process and get great results. Many new detailers are intimidated by the process because it's a lot of info to take in all at once. But if you take your time and read good information it should make sense. Many people are absolutely amazed at what they can accomplish once they try the process.

Like you said you'll probably save money in the long run with no paint job or regular details needed. I'm ready to help you whenever it works for you.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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Greg,

My son's girlfriend brand new Blue 2008 Mustang has some type of surface contaminants mainly on the horizontal surfaces. Seems to be some overspray as well as something black (tar, paint?). I tried a paint cleaner, cleaner wax, Clay Magic bar & nothing seemed to remove the stuff. I did not try WD40 yet. What would be your next steps? I have contacted the dealer and they said they can take care of it. I will probably let them do it. Opinion?
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My son's girlfriend brand new Blue 2008 Mustang has some type of surface contaminants mainly on the horizontal surfaces. Seems to be some overspray as well as something black (tar, paint?). I tried a paint cleaner, cleaner wax, Clay Magic bar & nothing seemed to remove the stuff. I did not try WD40 yet. What would be your next steps? I have contacted the dealer and they said they can take care of it. I will probably let them do it. Opinion?
I would probably try to use a stronger product like WD-40, mineral spirits, Tarminator, etc. I would recommend doing it yourself just because dealerships are probably less likely to care for the vehicle the way you would. You will probably use safer tools (i.e. microfiber towels) and be less likely to grind contaminants in to the surface.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Detailed Image
I would probably try to use a stronger product like WD-40, mineral spirits, Tarminator, etc. I would recommend doing it yourself just because dealerships are probably less likely to care for the vehicle the way you would. You will probably use safer tools (i.e. microfiber towels) and be less likely to grind contaminants in to the surface.

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OK. I'll try the WD40 first. I know if I get the crap off the surface I can do a better more careful job & probably use better products ie Pinnacle, Wolfgang & Menzerna than the dealer will.

Thanks, Mark
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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It's nice to do it your self. But imo, most of your average people will not want to spend 3-4+ hours to do all those steps (wash, clay, polish, wax). Took me 6 hours just to wash, clay, wax. It's very time consuming, and some pretty hard labor. After 4hours I almost gave up. Paint is smooth now though. All the others have already suggested all the good ideas. clay, polish.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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^ I bought a Flex to help me. It is time consuming for sure.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spider310
it makes baby jesus cry! please ive put 2 coats of wax on it and feels like sand paper! what can i do to make it baby smooth im a noob at this
this is a joke right, 580 posts with a superblack Z and you're asking how to detail it?
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Get_Zwole
hey thanks greg that means alot man. Youll prob be hearing from me soon lol. Thanks to superblack for the help too. YOu guys might save me a couple hundred bucks and possibly my paint job cause i dont trust anybody in this state with it lol thanks again.
Ill drive to okc Im gonna be playing paintball there anyway.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Detailed Image
I would probably try to use a stronger product like WD-40, mineral spirits, Tarminator, etc. I would recommend doing it yourself just because dealerships are probably less likely to care for the vehicle the way you would. You will probably use safer tools (i.e. microfiber towels) and be less likely to grind contaminants in to the surface.

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Well Clay Magic clay bar & Tarminator won't take the black specs off the paint.......next.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 05:35 AM
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^ Anybody?
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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Goof off?

It will take off any wax (so you'll need to re-wax), but I've used it in the past to get tar and cone marks off the paint. It is a chemical, so try it someplace where it won't be as noticeable first.
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jmark
Well Clay Magic clay bar & Tarminator won't take the black specs off the paint.......next.
Wow they must be stubborn. Just to review I recommend soaking a clean sloth with a product like Tarminator, Mineral Spirits, 3M Adhesive Remover and then hold it on the tar/ build ups for about 2 minutes+ to try and soften it. Then lightly agitate the area with a soft cloth. Clean it thoroughly when you're done.

If that doesn't work we're getting down to some last resort options. I have used a buffer to polish off contaminants. However I do this with an old pad and then I have to re-polish the same same area with all my latest and greatest pads/polishes. I do not like to use this method but it can work.

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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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^ Thanks Greg. I am going to see what the dealership says about it. I want it documented in case there is a paint problem.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Detailed Image
Wow they must be stubborn. Just to review I recommend soaking a clean sloth with a product like Tarminator, Mineral Spirits, 3M Adhesive Remover and then hold it on the tar/ build ups for about 2 minutes+ to try and soften it. Then lightly agitate the area with a soft cloth. Clean it thoroughly when you're done.

If that doesn't work we're getting down to some last resort options. I have used a buffer to polish off contaminants. However I do this with an old pad and then I have to re-polish the same same area with all my latest and greatest pads/polishes. I do not like to use this method but it can work.

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Update. Dealer wants the body shop to look at it.......
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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can you snap a pic of it or is it not visible?
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 03:30 AM
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The Dealerships bodyshop manager looked at the car and they think they can get the stuff off.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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My car is so dirty, and the paint sucks. I don't have access to a hose like I used to, which BLOWS. I need to sit down soon and spend all day cleaning. The interior is getting dirty also, it makes me so sad
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Body shop polished the car and got the stuff off.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jmark
Body shop polished the car and got the stuff off.
I don't see why the detailer couldn't do it themselves. It quite possibly could have required a rotary buffer which are far more dangerous than a PC and most detailers today use only a PC because it's safe and gets the job done with the correct pads and products.
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