FlaPhil

I've tried Zaino products and they are good, but I prefer the Blackfire for durability and Pinnacle for shine, not only for the final result, but they are easy to use - no mixing. The people are helpful, and the website, www.properautocare.com, is great. Lots of information to help with using their products.

For all those people out there that have never tried Pinnacle, you should at least take a look at the site, and read about the products. I've even called about how to use different products and they are extremely helpful.

Have Fun....

BILZ Z

I've been using pinnacle for 6 yrs. now, first a Black 3000GT then a red '97 911. The soverign stuff is fantastic on reds and blacks. As a matter of fact my Black Beauty is going into my detailing shop tomorrow AM for a good power polishing then a teflon paint seal and finally 2 coats of Pinnacle. I can't wait to see her all dressed up in her shine.

Brad4rdHay

No Teflon. I don't recomend it, its a pure scam. Teflon has to be bondad at above 700º to be affective. Just have a quality polymer put on there and then the Pinnacle Souveran.

Dr Bonz

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Let's see the pics! If you like Pinnacle better than Zaino, let's see it my friend. We've seen what Zaino and Blackfire can do.

ZBarrister

Adding my .02 on this wax/Zaino issue.

I have three coats of Zaino on my Z right now and today I put on a nice layer of wax. It's the S100 that brad recommended. That stuff is awesome and it makes the car look great.

So i have the best of both worlds for now. Thanks for the rec on the wax Brad!!

Brad4rdHay

Pinncale Souveran and S100 (P21S) were made by the same chemist about 10 years ago. Souveran's shine is a little better, but S1100 wax is damn good as well.

As far as shine goes, there really no beating a Souveran shine. Like barrister saaid, topping a polymer with a quality wax like he did really enhances the shine.