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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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My first time ever at a drag. I went in wanting to break into the 13's. Ultimately, I'd leave frustrated.

My very first run, 14.017 @ 97.83mph. Soo close. My second run, 14.019 @ 100.34mph...wtf. After that I got much worse...bogged the launch (14.596 @ 98.13) and red lighted by rolling forward...that one pissed me off since the Z rolled exactly as the tree was going to start, thus red-lighting me

I'll scan the slips later, but here is the break down.

# 1

60' - 2.152
330 - 5.963
1/8 - 9.100 @ 78.88
1000 - 11.749
1/4 - 14.017 @ 97.83

# 2

60' - 2.192
330 - 6.033
1/8 - 9.146 @ 79.23
1000 - 11.788
1/4 - 14.019 @ 100.34

I know what I screwed up in #3 and #4...but I guess I need to work on the launch to get that 60' time down.

I only saw one other Z out there and no G35s...was kind of disappointed.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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very cool to see more people drag racing, keep up the good work!!
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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yea dont stress, every component in your nismo Z was really designed for the road course anyways so you did a good job for what it is.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
yea dont stress, every component in your nismo Z was really designed for the road course anyways so you did a good job for what it is.
Yeah, I'm taking it out to do a Solo event next weekend...should be fun.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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conditions must have been horrible, 2.1 60 ft should have been 13.8-13.9 in even somewhat bad conditions, trap speed was another indication of bad conditions, 07's typically trap at 103
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I was at capital tonite. Only got 3crappy runs because it was anightmare at the track. Didnt really improve onmy et but I did trap 105-106 all 3 runs
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 04:00 AM
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Work on your launch and your shifting, times will improve. Practice makes perfect.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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I thought the nismo had the HR in it. that seems really slow unless conditions sucked.

and MC, low 9s are ok, but with the new car you should be substantially lower.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
I thought the nismo had the HR in it. that seems really slow unless conditions sucked.

and MC, low 9s are ok, but with the new car you should be substantially lower.
now just because it has a HR doesnt make it as fast as the previous, this is a nismo Z it has extra weight and performance values that really serve no benefit on a 1/4 course.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
I thought the nismo had the HR in it. that seems really slow unless conditions sucked.

and MC, low 9s are ok, but with the new car you should be substantially lower.
I guess slow will have to do for try #1. It was extremely humid, but since I'm a noob on drag, I'm not aware of just how much atmospheric and track conditions really effect my ET.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MC
not bad for your first try ever.

im sure you can hit high 13's next time. the first time is always a learning experience


i have a local 1/8 close by but i never have driven my nismo Z yet.

on my 2003 S-tune i would do consistantly 9.1 @ 80mph. im curious to see what that extra 900 rpms would do.
It was smooth, well, except for my two not-so-good runs. I know it has more, just need to work on the launch and shifting...13's will come.

I varied my shifting, I was experimenting a little. On my 14.017, I didn't shift at redline...more like 7. The second run was redline and my trap speed went up, but I was making up for a slower launch...so same launch as my first run I probably would have a had a 13.9. Live and learn...I'll probably head to the track next week, hopefully I get as many runs in.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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I think this is the first NISMO numbers I have seen. This is your first time at the drag strip? Impressive driving.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I think this is the first NISMO numbers I have seen. This is your first time at the drag strip? Impressive driving.
Thanks for the compliment, impressive...nah. I've got some work to do.

Maybe when the motor gets more broken in? It's only got 3900 on it.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cp79shark
Thanks for the compliment, impressive...nah. I've got some work to do.

Maybe when the motor gets more broken in? It's only got 3900 on it.
BTW post your time here: https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840-top-25-1-4-mile-times-for-tt-st-supercharger-nitrous-bolt-ons-stock.html.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I need to find a scanner and scan the slip so I can have my time verified, but I'm aware of that thread. Thanks for the reminder though.
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Do me a favor and post your launch technique.

My typical launch is to start with my first run at 5,000 RPM's. Not give more throttle until the car starts to squat, then gradually increase to full throttle while still slipping the clutch. If the car doesn't bog and doesn't spin increase the speed you give it throttle and give it a few hundred more RPM on launch (I like 5,500 if the track holds it). My best right now was run on a slick staging pad so best I could do for launch was 4,500 and a lot of slip without a lot of throttle progression.

Keep your tires at the stock pressure if you didn't, it is a bit harder to spin, and less wheel hop if you do.

Also, for shifting, shift at redline the power curve increases almost all the way to redline and you get more meat of the curve if you shift as high as possible.

I can't get 2nd to keep grip if I powershift so I'm a little slow on the clutch release and don't hold throttle, 3rd I lift a hair but might as well powershift, and 4th is the same thing.

Do a tire cleaning burnout, nothing crazy, just rev and let the clutch out, let the car spin the tires for a second or so (moving forward) put the clutch back in and stage. Keeps gravel and stuff from making your launch impossible.

Good luck, hope to see some VERY improved times
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Peak350
Do me a favor and post your launch technique.

My typical launch is to start with my first run at 5,000 RPM's. Not give more throttle until the car starts to squat, then gradually increase to full throttle while still slipping the clutch. If the car doesn't bog and doesn't spin increase the speed you give it throttle and give it a few hundred more RPM on launch (I like 5,500 if the track holds it). My best right now was run on a slick staging pad so best I could do for launch was 4,500 and a lot of slip without a lot of throttle progression.

Keep your tires at the stock pressure if you didn't, it is a bit harder to spin, and less wheel hop if you do.

Also, for shifting, shift at redline the power curve increases almost all the way to redline and you get more meat of the curve if you shift as high as possible.

I can't get 2nd to keep grip if I powershift so I'm a little slow on the clutch release and don't hold throttle, 3rd I lift a hair but might as well powershift, and 4th is the same thing.

Do a tire cleaning burnout, nothing crazy, just rev and let the clutch out, let the car spin the tires for a second or so (moving forward) put the clutch back in and stage. Keeps gravel and stuff from making your launch impossible.

Good luck, hope to see some VERY improved times
I think I'm a victim of the '07 clutch issue. When I tried to do a burnout at high rpm, it felt like the clutch pedal was stuck to the floor. I probably never got a good burnout (or maybe even one at all) because of this. I don't try and power shift second, but the others I was waiting till redline or close, except for the first run where I shifted at about 7-7.2.

Tires are stock PSI. The only thing not stock about my car is the floor mats and license plate brackets...the common nismo mods!

Thanks for the tips...I know I just need to get out there and practice some more. I think the launch is what's killing my time. I'm sure I can knock 1/2 second off with a better launch.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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I have you by .5 at the 1/8th, and .4 at the 330 mark, so I'd tend to agree. My trap for the 1/8th is also higher though, so it helped all the way down the track. I don't think I'll get much better (80.5) so I'm stuck gaining what I gain or less off the ET.

I've never had issues with the clutch sticking on the burnout, but have on the launch, its something you will learn to work around.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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I ran a sleu of 14.0s-14.6s at 96-100 my first 5 times to the track in my car. Thats about 30 passes.

a year later I was running 13.4-13.6s at 102-3.
I learned alot about shifting speed,
shift points (most people shift too early, naturally)
launching (lower tire pressure to 25 psi and learned the perfect rpm and throttle modulation to achieve 2.00-2.02s on every pass)

It will just take time and practice, you'll find it.
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