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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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hey guys.. just wondering how can i get more angle out of the z...
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 01:44 AM
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JIC-Magic are taking orders on there Z33/G35C Hard Tie Rods.

These are complete replacement inner tie rods which have a "spacer" machined into the inner portion which will allow for ~5-10% additional angle.

They also benefit from being made of higher quality stronger steel and use larger better quality bearings.

I am told that these should arrive from Japan in 6-8 weeks. go to www.jic-magic.com to contact them.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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i had jic tie rods for my 240sx and they broke after 2 months and i tried to get 1 and they wouldn let me.. so no i will never go w/ jic again... any other options?
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Tie rods don't just break for no reason, you must have either crashed or hit something while turning to break those.

Unfortunately even the strongest rods will break under racing/drifting conditions once in a while. Especially in S13's.

JIC hard tie rods are known to be some of the strongest and most dependable upgrades out there, they are far superior to many of the other brands offered. If I was you I would give them another chance, especially since no one else is offering anything for the Z33 yet other than if you go custom.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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By the way, is your other car an S13 or S14? If S13, I have a spare JIC-Magic tie rod I can sell... let me know if you still need it.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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i have just had problems w/ jic from their coilovers to their customer service... it is one company that i don't want to give business to ever again.. and i have a s13.. and i just switched to tein.. at least when i break these they are only 80 bucks vs 400 when the jic's were new.

and the car was drifted hard... and the jic's just didnt hold
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with JIC, I've had nothing but Great results from the products and customer service.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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hmmm... does anyone have any pictures of jic's tie rod of the portion that threads into the rack?
or better yet thickness of the built in spacer?

also for those that are running it, did you shave anything down? to allow for all that angle of steering ie.. the lca bumpstop
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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You need to shave the steering bump stops a little... I did mine by trial and error in order to not shave too much since I still run pretty wide front wheels/tires sometimes at track days and didn't want them to rub on the inside fender.

The JIC's have the "spacer" machined into them, it is all one piece. I'm not sure of the thickness, it should be the same as the S14.

Some other brands use an add on spacer, which you could use even with the stock rods but you might not have enough thread left over to run this safely.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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You need to shave the steering bump stops a little... I did mine by trial and error in order to not shave too much since I still run pretty wide front wheels/tires sometimes at track days and didn't want them to rub on the inside fender.

The JIC's have the "spacer" machined into them, it is all one piece. I'm not sure of the thickness, it should be the same as the S14.

Some other brands use an add on spacer, which you could use even with the stock rods but you might not have enough thread left over to run this safely.
Are you running a prototype or something? How can I get my hands on these quickly?
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I'm running the normal production rods, but I think they didn't get many in the first shipment. I was told more are arriving in June. You could always get air freight from Japan for ~ $50 which takes one week.
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
I'm running the normal production rods, but I think they didn't get many in the first shipment. I was told more are arriving in June. You could always get air freight from Japan for ~ $50 which takes one week.
Outstanding, thank you for the info. I'll contact JIC and get some ordered, are you going to be at the Atlanta FD event? If so, I'll see / meet you there, if not, wish me luck!!!
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battle version has come out with a very nice setup. tried and proven on actual formula d cars like the red endless 350z and chris foresberg's sr20 350z. a buddy of mine just got em. wow comes to mind when i see his angle

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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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they are actually tein, alex@battleversion just modifies them, they do the job well so far, ill be trying them out on the 21st to give my full review, but fooling around tonight i can definitely recommend them
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Old May 5, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Chris was actually the first to try this... he modified the S14 rods by cutting ~2" off the end and extending the threads. Then one day when Alex was doing my alignment, I had him cut 2" off a set of Tein S14 rods I had and we put it on which lasted me ~ 2 months... it is a good cheap way to do it but will break eventually if used at the track. You can do this with any brand tie rod, most people use the Teins since they seem to be one of the cheapest and most commonly available.

For a long term "fix" that will actually work as an upgrade, try the JIC's as they will not break as easily.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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was looking at having some made ground up
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Can anyone else comment on the reliability of the JIC VS modified tein(Battle version) tie rods?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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i have not had jic tie rods on the z yet as i haven't even seem them out yet..
but i did have them on my s13 and after a few track events they broke.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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i have had the s14 battle version tien ones on my car for awhile, and they kick ***. with some cutting and grinding you will get a very nice amount of steering out of them. i highly recommend them. haven't tried the jic ones yet because i don't believe they exhist here. i called the reps a few months ago and they told me i couldn't have them.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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well, at looks like I will be getting in touch with Alex. Thanks everyone
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