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I think im going with Sumitomo HTR Z 235/40-17, they're dirt cheap. 225 are like $63 but I dont know if I want to go THAT thin. I am tryin, however, to find lower profiles to reduce flex and get the rear out there...
I think im going with Sumitomo HTR Z 235/40-17, they're dirt cheap. 225 are like $63 but I dont know if I want to go THAT thin. I am tryin, however, to find lower profiles to reduce flex and get the rear out there...
use the stock size, dont be a ****** and run reverse stagger, thats really weak, and will teach you nothing. the z33 drifts AWESOME stock, no need for reverse stagger. just buy the cheapest tires you can buy in a stock size or wider, and go burn and learn. i assume youd be going ot www.dgtrials.com events?
for the rears i like the falken st-115s in 245/45/17s. these things never chunk, make lots of smoke and last forever. i just threw on some hankook ventus hrii h405s in 245/45/17s yesterday and i don't really like them. the things felt greasy as hell and had to air them down a lil. for the fronts i like running on the stock 18s with 225/45s for less sidewall but stock potenzas suck ***** and chunk. i wanna throw on some dunlop direzzas or some falken rt-615s up front.
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I found that a larger tire in the rear will not induce understeer if the front tire is large enough. I have run on stock 18in (225/45 and 245/45) wheels and the stock 17in wheels and now I have run on a 245/35/19 up front and a 275/35/19 in back. This setup was supriseing.
The car turned a hell of alot better than before. I would have thought I'd find more understeer since the difference in front and rear tire size was greater. The car would get sideways just on momentum alone, no thottle. The car did'nt do that before, it was very neutral, even with 275's in the back. The car took a better line with the larger tires, it huged the inside more allowing me come in faster and with more angle. The drifts were much faster and it was much easier to keep up in tandem.(too bad the motor blew thw next day!) I want to try a 10 up front and an 11 in the rear once I get some power.
I have not tried an even tire size all around. I've heard it's pretty neutral, Can anyone comment?
The car turned a hell of alot better than before. I would have thought I'd find more understeer since the difference in front and rear tire size was greater. The car would get sideways just on momentum alone, no thottle. The car did'nt do that before, it was very neutral, even with 275's in the back. The car took a better line with the larger tires, it huged the inside more allowing me come in faster and with more angle. The drifts were much faster and it was much easier to keep up in tandem.(too bad the motor blew thw next day!) I want to try a 10 up front and an 11 in the rear once I get some power.
I have not tried an even tire size all around. I've heard it's pretty neutral, Can anyone comment?
Originally Posted by shmately
I found that a larger tire in the rear will not induce understeer if the front tire is large enough. I have run on stock 18in (225/45 and 245/45) wheels and the stock 17in wheels and now I have run on a 245/35/19 up front and a 275/35/19 in back. This setup was supriseing.
The car turned a hell of alot better than before. I would have thought I'd find more understeer since the difference in front and rear tire size was greater. The car would get sideways just on momentum alone, no thottle. The car did'nt do that before, it was very neutral, even with 275's in the back. The car took a better line with the larger tires, it huged the inside more allowing me come in faster and with more angle. The drifts were much faster and it was much easier to keep up in tandem.(too bad the motor blew thw next day!) I want to try a 10 up front and an 11 in the rear once I get some power.
I have not tried an even tire size all around. I've heard it's pretty neutral, Can anyone comment?
The car turned a hell of alot better than before. I would have thought I'd find more understeer since the difference in front and rear tire size was greater. The car would get sideways just on momentum alone, no thottle. The car did'nt do that before, it was very neutral, even with 275's in the back. The car took a better line with the larger tires, it huged the inside more allowing me come in faster and with more angle. The drifts were much faster and it was much easier to keep up in tandem.(too bad the motor blew thw next day!) I want to try a 10 up front and an 11 in the rear once I get some power.
I have not tried an even tire size all around. I've heard it's pretty neutral, Can anyone comment?
btw, do you have any engine mods? i think i may have read that all you had was exhaust and an ecu flash.
use the stock size, dont be a ****** and run reverse stagger, thats really weak, and will teach you nothing. the z33 drifts AWESOME stock, no need for reverse stagger. just buy the cheapest tires you can buy in a stock size or wider, and go burn and learn. i assume youd be going ot www.dgtrials.com events?
just make sure you run a decent 245-255 up front if you have the wheel for it. the stock 225s are way to small for drifting on the front, plus the car understeers all the time anyways, making it worse. mikey is right about the z33 being an awesome drift car stock, just make sure you have a diff in the back and enjoy the hell out of your car!
You can still learn a lot with the 225s up front, but your going to be trying harder.
I truly think learning how to drift with understeer is a good thing.
It will help when you start doing higher speed drifts. Regardless of setup, you can't spin the wheels as easily at high speeds as you can at low speeds. So you must use some technique to get the car to start sliding where you what it to. Whether it be a feint, e-brake, clutch kick, brake or a combination of one or more techniques. These techniques are also practiced at low speeds by cars that understeer badly. Cars that have aftermarket suspensions and/or adequate power don't need to use anything but the gas pedal to get sideways at low speeds.
Do you want experiment and learn new techniques at low speeds or high speeds?
I truly think learning how to drift with understeer is a good thing.
It will help when you start doing higher speed drifts. Regardless of setup, you can't spin the wheels as easily at high speeds as you can at low speeds. So you must use some technique to get the car to start sliding where you what it to. Whether it be a feint, e-brake, clutch kick, brake or a combination of one or more techniques. These techniques are also practiced at low speeds by cars that understeer badly. Cars that have aftermarket suspensions and/or adequate power don't need to use anything but the gas pedal to get sideways at low speeds.
Do you want experiment and learn new techniques at low speeds or high speeds?
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