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Old May 18, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Default nismo 450hp VQ crate engine

i saw this mentioned briefly on a japan auto show thread; they said it is now available. questions: what's a crate engine, will it work on our cars, and is it available in the US?

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Old May 18, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Crate Engine: A crate engine is a complete replacement internal combustion engine for a car, generally a fairly high performance engine. What distinguishes a crate engine from other replacement engines is that it is a complete, pre-packaged, new-build solution, already packed in a shipping crate (hence the name) ready to be bought off-the-shelf. The crate engine provides a quick, simple, guaranteed motor. Many are built up by the original equipment manufacturer, while others are assembled by specialist firms.

This is in contrast to the traditional method of obtaining a performance engine, which is by building it from components or having such an engine custom built by a specialist. The best custom-built engines can outperform a crate engine, of course, but the cost in money, time, and uncertainty can be high.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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thanx, pu z. so can i get ahold of one of these and have it installed in my z?
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Hey! Who are you calling a "pu z"? LOL

Not sure if this one in particular is available here in the U.S. but I've read somewhere on this board that there are a few companies here in the U.S. that are already providing crate engines for our Z. I'd have to see If I can track it down for you though. Yes you can have this engine installed but I heard it's fairly pricey. Perhaps not in comparison to fully rebuilding our OEM engines but still pricey nonetheless.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Z BOY:

Would you please post the link about that crate engine up here from Nismo please? I would LOVE to read more about it mate! And want to see what parts do they have in that engine to output 425HP...

And also would this engine package includes the ECU as well? I guess it gotta be the MUST to this type of engine package though.

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Old May 18, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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pu z bumpensero, like on the sopranos. pu z is a good thing!
damn, wouldn't it be cool to be one of the first to get that badboy!! i'm on the nismo site right now, but i can't find it. any help would be awesome! thanx.
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Here's one thread I found in regards to this crate engines. It's fairly old but I think they're talking about the same engine you're talking about:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....=crate+engines

Still looking for the other thread I was talking about though.
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Z BOY:

Would you please post the link about that crate engine up here from Nismo please? I would LOVE to read more about it mate! And want to see what parts do they have in that engine to output 425HP...

And also would this engine package includes the ECU as well? I guess it gotta be the MUST to this type of engine package though.

cheers,

richie
ok, i'll look now. it was a thread from yesterday that had pix of all kinds of cars at some japanese auto show, and down at the bottom was a little blurb about this engine.

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Thanks Z BOY! Appreciate your help!

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here's the link; its close to bottom of page:
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1029
and thanx, pu z, for the link that helped me find this link

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Funny that we never saw any of this other than the cat-back exhaust...
"As with nearly every other Japanese tuner, HKS has been hard at work with the Nissan 350Z. They've already developed a full line of hardware including a cat-back exhaust, forged connecting rods, forged pistons, billet camshafts, adjustable head gaskets, multi-disk clutch and even a 450 horsepower "crate" engine."

Full-line of hardware my ass, even if it was HKS Japan we could still use the same parts (such as pistons and rods).

And I imagine that NISMO engine would cost you ~10-15,000 at least.

I liked seeing what all the magazines thought about the 350Z though...but we sure didn't get the product support that we thought we were when the first 350Z's were at shows...

(BTW Tomei, WTF is that racing engine you had made for an auto show?...the only thing we've seen from them is cams...)

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crate engine will be more like 20-30K imho
probably even more

Had a picture of nismo engines somewhere, i'll try to find it

[edit]couldn't find my pictures, but found this one instead[/edit]


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Old May 19, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nano
Its so BEAUTIFUL
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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looks like it's running ITBs. that thing is from HKS. can we say MONEY
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
Funny that we never saw any of this other than the cat-back exhaust...
"As with nearly every other Japanese tuner, HKS has been hard at work with the Nissan 350Z. They've already developed a full line of hardware including a cat-back exhaust, forged connecting rods, forged pistons, billet camshafts, adjustable head gaskets, multi-disk clutch and even a 450 horsepower "crate" engine."

Full-line of hardware my ass, even if it was HKS Japan we could still use the same parts (such as pistons and rods).

And I imagine that NISMO engine would cost you ~10-15,000 at least.

I liked seeing what all the magazines thought about the 350Z though...but we sure didn't get the product support that we thought we were when the first 350Z's were at shows...

(BTW Tomei, WTF is that racing engine you had made for an auto show?...the only thing we've seen from them is cams...)
FYI, HKS and GReddy don't make rods and pistons, they rebadge other brands and mark them up. Nismo does this as well with JP pistons. Of course this is nothing you didnt alredy know but some people waste just for the name.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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it's a race engine - 13.5:1 compression ratio
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also,
if you look closely at that motor:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/ga...8/61crate1.jpg

it's not a VQ35. it is probably a VG30, or VQ30, i forget which one. it has different valve covers, and timing plate.

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Originally Posted by protocav
also,
if you look closely at that motor:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/ga...8/61crate1.jpg

it's not a VQ35. it is probably a VG30, or VQ30, i forget which one. it has different valve covers, and timing plate.

Chad
It's a NISMO crate VQ35DE

I had a picture with the whole prepped 350z with the engine beside it, but can't find them... you could clearly read VQ35


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I believe it has been discussed before. Only race teams will have access to the motor.
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I've seen a pic of HKS internals sitting on a table...were supposed to be for the VQ35, but I've not seen hide nor hair of them since.
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