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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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well as the title says is the z rev happy? does it get the most power in the higher rpms? thanks in advanced.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Yes.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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in my opinion, its evenly distributed. I may be wrong but everyone has their own opinion. ive had an s2k at one time, i know for a fact that s2k does not pick up the speed that quick on a rolling from stop sign. This is without double clutching...just simple roll and floor the gas...I know the z can roll and pick up speed quick off the line due to torque but on the top end, i cant tell which is faster though.
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first and last post, you've done it
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Not at all , it has a rather flat torque curve , and makes its power thru the rpm range.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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thanks guys for the replys i appreciate it.


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first and last post???
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It's a pig below 4,000.

5,000 to redline, make sure you have your license, registration and proof of insuarnce.
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No the 350Z is not rev happy say like a Honda 2000 or Mazda RX-8 both with 8000-9000 rpm redline these type cars need to be rev high to reach the performance level that one can feel.

Unlike thoes car the 350Z is more like a Porsche Boxster or S, Vette or Mustang V8 you feel its power at low and high rpms reaching its peek in between 5500-6500 rpm I believe. The V6 in the 350 is consider a high torque engine meaning that at any rpm it feels lively/powerful. Some say that the Z-car pushed to its limits lacks the continued push that the V8 Corvette or Porsche 911 has. Thats usually well past 150mphs and most don't have the driving skills to push a Z-car past its limit.

The fastest I've gone in my Z-car is about a 130mps then I chicken out when approaching blind hills or curves on the highway. The 350Z can go faster then most people/I can drive.

So no the 350Z I do not considered high rev or rev happy, its just powerful and smooth anytime you want it, so much so that some people back hand compliment it saying it boarders on MUSCLE CAR. But with its track worthy steering/handling/suspension and brakes it pure sports car.

This is just one mans opinion.

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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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In my opinion (not much of one as I have only had mine for 2 weeks) I don't feel it has much torque on the low side but it pulls strong and smooth until you hit 4900 and up rpm range and then it feels like ***** to the wall!

I have scared myself already turning off the VDC and spinning tires in 1st through 3 without really trying. What amazes me is that in 2 and 3 gear under power if I punch it i can make the tires slip. I definately have to spend more time behind the wheel to get proficient in driving this awesome car!! I drove a friend's 03 Supercharged Cobra last week and that is what I would call torque!
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Most power 3-5K, then after that, it flattens out.
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OP: you know the Z comes with three different flavor of engines right? That's why you get different answers.

The first generation 287hp engine: good torque, not high-revving. The second generation engine with 300hp: less torque down low, more hp up high. And the current VQHR, which is the best engine of the three, has good torque down low and good hp up top. yes, high-revving
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Originally Posted by Donsred350Z
No the 350Z is not rev happy say like a Honda 2000 or Mazda RX-8 both with 8000-9000 rpm redline these type cars need to be rev high to reach the performance level that one can feel.

Unlike thoes car the 350Z is more like a Porsche Boxster or S, Vette or Mustang V8 you feel its power at low and high rpms reaching its peek in between 5500-6500 rpm I believe. The V6 in the 350 is consider a high torque engine meaning that at any rpm it feels lively/powerful. Some say that the Z-car pushed to its limits lacks the continued push that the V8 Corvette or Porsche 911 has. Thats usually well past 150mphs and most don't have the driving skills to push a Z-car past its limit.

The fastest I've gone in my Z-car is about a 130mps then I chicken out when approaching blind hills or curves on the highway. The 350Z can go faster then most people/I can drive.

So no the 350Z I do not considered high rev or rev happy, its just powerful and smooth anytime you want it, so much so that some people back hand compliment it saying it boarders on MUSCLE CAR. But with its track worthy steering/handling/suspension and brakes it pure sports car.

This is just one mans opinion.
ive pushed my Z to 160mph on the 99 in california and i have to say that i never felt so safe at such a fast speed in any car. not a twitch or anything. it was rock solid to the ground.
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all depending i believe the HR motor is a rev happy car, anyone who says other wise is a baphoon. lol. 3500 to about 7300 the car flys, i had a 06 revup before and i opened that up to 160, that car as well was a rev happy car but not as happy as the HR. i just installed test pipes, jic y pipe, and greddy tic exh on my HR and top end this car just goes.
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Originally Posted by jOeL350z
in my opinion, its evenly distributed. I may be wrong but everyone has their own opinion. ive had an s2k at one time, i know for a fact that s2k does not pick up the speed that quick on a rolling from stop sign. This is without double clutching...just simple roll and floor the gas...I know the z can roll and pick up speed quick off the line due to torque but on the top end, i cant tell which is faster though.
What in the world does double clutching have to do with a car being rev-happy or not?
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What would be a safe rev limit on these cars? I have seen people raise their rev limmiter.

de motor - 6400 raised to 7000
rev up - 7000 raised to 7500
hr motor - 7500 raised to 8000

Does that seem good without building up the engine, would those motors be able to handle having their rev limits raised to those points or they can't be raised too much? Thanks
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Originally Posted by Donsred350Z
No the 350Z is not rev happy say like a Honda 2000 or Mazda RX-8 both with 8000-9000 rpm redline these type cars need to be rev high to reach the performance level that one can feel.

Unlike thoes car the 350Z is more like a Porsche Boxster or S, Vette or Mustang V8 you feel its power at low and high rpms reaching its peek in between 5500-6500 rpm I believe. The V6 in the 350 is consider a high torque engine meaning that at any rpm it feels lively/powerful. Some say that the Z-car pushed to its limits lacks the continued push that the V8 Corvette or Porsche 911 has. Thats usually well past 150mphs and most don't have the driving skills to push a Z-car past its limit.

The fastest I've gone in my Z-car is about a 130mps then I chicken out when approaching blind hills or curves on the highway. The 350Z can go faster then most people/I can drive.

So no the 350Z I do not considered high rev or rev happy, its just powerful and smooth anytime you want it, so much so that some people back hand compliment it saying it boarders on MUSCLE CAR. But with its track worthy steering/handling/suspension and brakes it pure sports car.

This is just one mans opinion.
depends on the car..Non-revups tend to be pretty happy in the midrange...revups and HR's come alive up higher. chickenin out at 130 is a good idea lol....I once hit 142 mph...and then a damn ground hog ran out in the road about 200 yards ahead....scared the hell outta me, had to practically lock em up. Tennessee and its wildlife....sigh.

with stock valvetrain components I wouldnt raise the rev limit more than 100 rpm's over stock personally....if i wanted to do crap like that I'd do alot of chatting with guys that really know what theyre talking about. Jeremy, Adam, and Sharif come to mind.

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Originally Posted by 3kgtslflip
What would be a safe rev limit on these cars? I have seen people raise their rev limmiter.

de motor - 6400 raised to 7000
rev up - 7000 raised to 7500
hr motor - 7500 raised to 8000

Does that seem good without building up the engine, would those motors be able to handle having their rev limits raised to those points or they can't be raised too much? Thanks
"Safe" rev limits we're already put in place by Nissan. I know particularly on the DE, SCC lists two primary modes of failure for the motor, one of which is over-revving. The short of it is this: light pistons+small ringlands+low ring tension is great for emissions but raised rev limiters can gouge cylinder walls or cause ring flutter. I have no reason to believe the same wouldn't apply to the newer engine designs as well.
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
What in the world does double clutching have to do with a car being rev-happy or not?
what i mean by this was, rather than just flooring it while your at low rpm, u can simply floor it and pump the clutch to rev the motor to higher rpm and picks up better from that speed on...if u have never race someone from rolling, then u will not know what im talkin bout...
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