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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nismonian
why dont you just do a rb26 swap itll probably be the better choice anyways
haha ignore this person. As you already pointed out it's a hell of a project to make it fit properly. + It's extremely expensive for the motor/parts not to mentions you'd have to source out the RB25DET transmission which again goes with the $$$ category.

Originally Posted by my350isblack
a built KA-T is even more responsive. way more torque than the sr
I was never into the KA-T's although I do respect them and assume that the extra .4L adds up to a pretty decent torque bump over the SR. I almost bought one a couple months ago but never pulled the trigger.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Forsberg did it years ago. He had his reasons. If your putting a SR in to be different, then you're a stupid f*&%ing ricer. That engine is a downgrade for this car.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawn Dart
Forsberg did it years ago. He had his reasons. If your putting a SR in to be different, then you're a stupid f*&%ing ricer. That engine is a downgrade for this car.
The only reason he did it was because he was having trouble getting support from his sponsors due to him ruining a number of VQ's due to the lack of support and parts for the motor at the time. I agree with you that at this point in time there would be no reason to use an SR like he did unless it was to be different.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Wow, just wow. I have a SR in my 90 hatch and I would never think of putting it in a car that came with a V-6. Building a 500hp SR is an extra few thousand. Keeping it from grenading is many many more thousands.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zix07
Again I guess all those drifters and racers who did it are just fools
To my knowledge those drifters and racers did a sr20 swap mainly do to the fact that there was very little to no aftermarket susport and very little was know about the vq engine at the time.

No i dont know anything about the actual swap to say but I do agree with everyone on here so far. While yes you can make 500hp out of an sr you will have to build the bottom end of the SR to achive a goal with any real hopes of it lasting for any real period of time.

Now am i positive on this no, but I am almost sure that your current exaust will not mate up to the new SR and you will more than likely have to have a custom exaust for it so there is some $$$ right there.

Not to mention that 500hp SR in a 350 is going to be nothing like a 500hp SR in a 240. If you wanna do it go ahead but just from doing a little bit of searching on the internet and going off my small knowledge of the SR engin this swap will in the long run cost you more than building and turboing your current vq

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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawn Dart
Forsberg did it years ago. He had his reasons. If your putting a SR in to be different, then you're a stupid f*&%ing ricer. That engine is a downgrade for this car.
Um thats what hes running now......and he actually did it because his vq's kept blowing up from not handling boost well....and he didnt have a secondary crate motor so tomei had a SR motor dropped in and he used that ever since.

And lol to you who think its rice....lmao you really think motor swapping is rice lmao. To be rice is to mod with no function and running a lighter more reliable engine which will sit on the firewall and allow me to run closer to 50/50 weight distribution along with a stronger after market following, oh yea real rice.........

and again fawk all the haters I need an experienced built SR motorists not a guy who think his D*ck grew 2 inches because he has a 350z never mind an almighty HR engine OMG!!!!!

So Do realize im sold on what im doing and im not doing it to be different i just realized since no one on here did it so apparently i will be different a$$
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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We already got everything worked out between us and again, if you need any help just PM me.

As far as Forsberg he's been running the 5.6L Titan motor for the last couple of seasons. IIRC he's actually a member on here who chimes in every once in awhile..

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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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I just seen a show like 2 nights ago and he said hes running the sr now lol and the titan is out? IDK? lmao
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zix07
I just seen a show like 2 nights ago and he said hes running the sr now lol and the titan is out? IDK? lmao
You might be right. I just found this article from 12/18/08 called "Out with the old.."

http://www.everythingdrift.com/blog/?p=332
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Yea he was on HIN on speed a few nights ago running a SR and a coupe I believe but it was night time on the show so maybe it was the drop top lol
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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If you wanna swap in an SR, do the Z world a favor and buy a 240.

Ooh, better yet, run your wallet dry and sell me the SR when you need food on the table... I have a Sentra that needs the power.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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u do realize im using a built sr20det right? lmao u guys are so funny when u really have no idea of the benefits of the swap.....also for all the y are u putting a v4 in a 6 and o its in a heavier car. well correct me if im wrong but i believe evos and stis are running 4s in a car tht weighs close or more than ours lol and its w/e ive got the help i needed and once its done ill let all of u hate to my rear bumper cuz if u think putting 5000 in a vq is going to be better/faster than putting 5000 in a sr then ur freaking high
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ni$mo350
You might be right. I just found this article from 12/18/08 called "Out with the old.."

http://www.everythingdrift.com/blog/?p=332
I may be super wrong here, but I believe he's going for a slightly new look/body kit with the car, rather than an engine swap. I am also pretty sure he has a second 350z that still contains the sr20 swap.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by zix07
u do realize im using a built sr20det right? lmao u guys are so funny when u really have no idea of the benefits of the swap.....also for all the y are u putting a v4 in a 6 and o its in a heavier car. well correct me if im wrong but i believe evos and stis are running 4s in a car tht weighs close or more than ours lol and its w/e ive got the help i needed and once its done ill let all of u hate to my rear bumper cuz if u think putting 5000 in a vq is going to be better/faster than putting 5000 in a sr then ur freaking high
so youre saying the sr20 is a v4?

Ill say one more thing. You need to realize that its not just about peak WHP and peak WTQ. You need to look under the curve and see how much hp and tq you make throughout the rpm's. A 500whp VQ will stomp a 500whp sr20 when it comes to TQ. The powercurve of the VQ > then an sr. that extra 1.5 liters of displacement helps you make more torque and spool larger turbos.

Maybe you should swap a B16 instead........
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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You are unbelievably misinformed. There is a lot of people here who know what they are talking about and clearly have a much better understanding of the idiocy you are about to commit.

And btw you throwing LOLs and ROFLs in between every other word only makes you sound like an ignorant high school ***** and not like someone who knows what they are doings.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Go ahead and let him do it if he is stubborn, who cares - its his money. What i don't get is why start a thread asking opinions and then not accept it?
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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^^+1, and OP my z with intake and downpipes beat a 300whp 240 with a redtop sr. its a good motor once boost hits, but the vq has power at any rpm
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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what is the weight difference between the sr and the VQ (including turbo, piping and IC for the SR)? A significant would be the only same reason to perform this swap.

I agree with everyone else that the SR for the Z and G35 is a huge mistake.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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KA24DE - 330 LBS http://vqswap.com/
VQ35DE - Roughly the same 330 LBS http://vqswap.com/
(these numbers dont include whether the engines are complete or short block or long block, transmission etc)


SR20DET - 511 lbs http://www.jeimportperformance.com/items/162
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zix07
I will have to do MAJOR work to the bay for an rb....The Sr will fit alot easier
You should start doing ALOT more research before you let anyone touch the car

This thread unfortunately reads like so many others that have made such proposals since 2003. It sounds like you have no idea what you are getting yourself into. Unfortunate really.

Give any thought to the transmission you're going to use? The dash? Getting the traction control to function? The driveshaft? The air conditioning?

People aren't hating on you, they are trying to educate you - but you sound like so many who have posted before you, (and so many who inhabit this board, and others, as a whole) and you will take the info that is being provided here and discount it with lol's, and other internet jargon as if the guys here don't know what they are talking about. If you know more than the rest of us, why are you asking the questions? If you REALLY want the info, it's out there. If you were sincere about getting this swap done, doing it correctly, and having it looked like it belonged there, you really wouldn't be making this post. Why? Because the shop doing it for you would have given you all this info ahead of time.
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