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Dec 17, 2003 | 10:07 PM

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We have a 4 bolt main so the crankshaft, crank bearings, and the bottom part of the bottom end should have no problem with high HP. The weak areas are 1st - the pistons meliting, 2nd - the rods breaking, 3rd - having an open deck. Solving these 3 problems should make the motor strong enough to handle some superpower. My plans:

Forged rods and pistons (8.5:1)
Something to reinforce the cylinders
Higher capacity oil pan
Lightly ported heads
Tomei 268 cams w/Ti retainers, stronger springs, heavy duty lifters
Some sort of plenum (LSDUnique or Crawford)
ATI Procharger with smaller pulley
TS ECU Flash w/(probably)XEDE Programmer (to monitor/fine tune)
XERD Headers
Already have the exhaust, clutch, flywheel, etc.
THE END.

Sidenote: I may sub the ATI and plenum for the Stillen. Depends on HP/dollar.

if you are gonna do all of this, you should just go FI more bang for the buck. IMO turbocharger over supercharger anyday

Dec 17, 2003 | 10:22 PM

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I don't like turbos.

Anyways, I care more about bang than buck. Plus, the motor won't hold if I do not build it. I want 700 RWHP not 400.

Dec 18, 2003 | 04:29 AM

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Plus 500 for labor will be the whole motor and I suspect about 200 for supercharger labor. Maybe 4G's for a Procharger and you say 4500 for the motor. Not bad for 700 HP. Less than 10K. Can you say, "Bonus!" Yay end of year. Too bad our year ends in July.

Yeah but that's not with the heads, I'd do the heads also (which you listed), might as well being you get labor so cheap and if you can get parts at cost, know what I mean. It won't be too much for some valves, springs, retainers etc.. You can get the cams for about ~1000$ Figure your going to have a grand total of about ~$7000 - $7500 for the parts w/o labor. Then figure in your cost for your engine management, how much is the Xede going to be anyway? Probably going to end up costing $10,000 before labor. I told you we have some rich people on this board

-Bill

Dec 18, 2003 | 05:20 AM

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Can do the heads ourself. Will probably wind up putting the thing together ourselves. I'll let you know how much it is. Less than what you think. Probably more than I think too. Lets take an avg.

Dec 18, 2003 | 05:27 AM

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Well, I can tell you exactly how much it's costing me, at cost no labor. Not right now, that info is at home tho

It's less then 10g's, but closer due to the stand alone. Either way, it sucks

Dec 18, 2003 | 05:51 AM

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What setup do you have? Still in progress?

Dec 18, 2003 | 06:17 AM

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Dec 18, 2003 | 08:45 AM

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Damn alot of rich people on this board.

Wouldn't say that, just there are less BSers here.

Dec 18, 2003 | 10:47 AM

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I don't like turbos. Anyways, I care more about bang than buck. Plus, the motor won't hold if I do not build it. I want 700 RWHP not 400.

custom turbo kit would make way more than superchargers

Dec 18, 2003 | 10:55 AM

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custom turbo kit would make way more than superchargers

and i can attain my goal with a supercharger for a lot less money and a much simpler system. turbos aren't for everyone.

Dec 18, 2003 | 10:56 AM

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So your saying I can't hit 700hp with a supercharger?

Dec 18, 2003 | 04:53 PM

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So your saying I can't hit 700hp with a supercharger?

i wanna see fly by z hit 700whp with a supercharger

Dec 18, 2003 | 05:07 PM

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So your saying I can't hit 700hp with a supercharger?

Me? I say you can because I say I can. If I can, you can, anyone can.

ZSPEED83, the ATI is uses a compressor that is rated to around 700 RWHP. If the motor can take it, the ATI will put it out. Is that funny or did you have no idea?