Which one should I get?
02-26-2019, 06:56 AM
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Thanks! I would like to say that I have stumbled across your thread a few weeks ago 
I will gladly make a thread for myself (its a great idea!)
I have gone through a ton of posts on here and some people are relentless with their comments, I'm not taking any offense from them. They have their own thing, I have my own thing.
That being said, I still their comments into consideration when planning on what to do (like you said, they probably and most definitely do have more experience than I do)
My 5 year plan? I want a sick track car with at least 500HP; I know it'll cost a **** ton of money but I really don't care. I'll say the same thing I said in my last comment, my 350z is my baby and it's my dream car, I'm going to keep it forever and I'm just going to drop a few dimes here and there to work my way up.
Before spring, I think I'm installing a CAI, a test pipe, and a y pipe. Sound good or nah?
I will gladly make a thread for myself (its a great idea!)
I have gone through a ton of posts on here and some people are relentless with their comments, I'm not taking any offense from them. They have their own thing, I have my own thing.
That being said, I still their comments into consideration when planning on what to do (like you said, they probably and most definitely do have more experience than I do)
My 5 year plan? I want a sick track car with at least 500HP; I know it'll cost a **** ton of money but I really don't care. I'll say the same thing I said in my last comment, my 350z is my baby and it's my dream car, I'm going to keep it forever and I'm just going to drop a few dimes here and there to work my way up.
Before spring, I think I'm installing a CAI, a test pipe, and a y pipe. Sound good or nah?
yea - keep reading & researching … everything you want/need to know is out there.
make a plan for the car … 500hp isn't that that lofty but will cost some money. If you can bring it down to 425hp it'll save you $5k (as you wont have to build the block). You could look into some weight saving measures to compensate for the ~75hp you are missing out on. 425hp will cost you between $5k-$7k. Some of this expense can be picked up along the way (such as the exhaust / intake mods)
The CAI, pipes, Y-pipe, exhaust is a good place to start. You should also look into a plenum spacer and look into the motordyne lower plenum - both will open the intake up. You will also need to tune - look into Uprev, Even with all these mods and a tune you might see a 15hp to 20hp gain - it's not much.
02-26-2019, 08:11 AM
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02-26-2019, 08:22 AM
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The CAI, pipes, Y-pipe, exhaust is a good place to start. You should also look into a plenum spacer and look into the motordyne lower plenum - both will open the intake up. You will also need to tune - look into Uprev, Even with all these mods and a tune you might see a 15hp to 20hp gain - it's not much.
How come some people say the plenum spacers are crap while others don't? You think it helps? I always thought a plenum spacer helped, I mean it seems logical... I mean after all more air = more power... right?
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02-26-2019, 08:47 AM
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02-26-2019, 10:54 AM
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Check my build, I have my Z for 10 years now and started same as you are with 0 knowledge on this forum.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...n-03-350z.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...n-03-350z.html
02-27-2019, 05:43 AM
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02-27-2019, 05:57 AM
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Check my build, I have my Z for 10 years now and started same as you are with 0 knowledge on this forum.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...n-03-350z.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...n-03-350z.html
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NaaNee00 (03-11-2019)
03-11-2019, 04:14 AM
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HFC = High flow cats
TP = test pipes
? If I'm correct on those acronyms, then yes I'm planning on getting test pipes some time in the next week or so, just thinking whether I want to get test pipes and back (exhaust etc.) completely done, or test pipes and front (headers, etc.) done.
I'm thinking of getting TTs, from everything I know TT's are better in higher RPMs.
Do the TTs (or any form of FI) get rid of your intakes?
03-11-2019, 07:53 AM
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Youre correct on HFC and TP. Know that you need to tune your car to optimize those mods. If you get a traditional (Uprev, Haltech, Link, AEM) tuning device you'll be able to use that for your future mods.
Twin turbos are better at lower / mid RPMs - as they use smaller turbos that will spool-up easier versus a single larger turbo.
Likely a twin turbo kit will eliminate any aftermarket intake kit. Maybe not all but most. Do more research once you determine which kit you want.
Twin turbos are better at lower / mid RPMs - as they use smaller turbos that will spool-up easier versus a single larger turbo.
Likely a twin turbo kit will eliminate any aftermarket intake kit. Maybe not all but most. Do more research once you determine which kit you want.
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03-11-2019, 08:41 AM
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- I've never really trusted the do it yourself tuning devices, do they actually work? I would rather know that someone else has properly done it then to use a handheld device that I don't even know if it works; my brother has one for his Mustang GT, but I couldn't tell a difference.
"Twin turbos are better at lower / mid rpms- as they use smaller turbos that will spool-up easier versus a single larger turbo."
- I meant turbos in general are better in the higher rpms then a supercharger, only because the supercharger gives instant power but the turbos have the lag. Again, this is from what I've heard from around this forum, if this information is incorrect please let me know.
A single big turbo typically generates more high end HP, but has more lag compared to twins, right? I haven't made my mind up about turbos, I just know I want turbos over a supercharger.
(P.S. I'm just trying to build one hell of a f'ing sleeper to dust the kids on the highway pretty much, so mid-high rpm mods are what I'm going for... at least I think that's what I want to do.)
03-11-2019, 10:38 AM
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Naa - use the 'Quote' button when you reply...
I like you Naa - you're alright in my book...so I wont grill you on the aforementioned tuning platforms. Rather, google each one of those and see what comes up. None of them are hand-helds but rather full (or near full) spectrum tuning solutions.
Both superchargers and turbos have their pros and cons so figure out what you want and then research other peoples builds and do what's best for you.
Turbo lag (as I understand it) is more a function of how much piping (volume) you have between two separate systems:
#1 - the back of the exhaust valves and the hotside of the turbo
#2 - the cold side of the turbo and the back of the intake valves
The turbo has to generate and compress a volume of air at a rate faster than what the engine is consuming it.
For instance - If you look at my previous greddy twin turbo build I had a good amount of intake pipe between the turbo and the intake valves … the turbos had to compress a large volume of air (faster than the engine was consuming the air) to build boost.
On my current build I am doing my absolute best to eliminate and/or minimize as much exhaust pipe as possible and as much intake pipe as possible - thus reducing the amount of volume of air the turbo has to compress before boost is built.
A good book you should pick up is Cork Bell's Maximum Boost and/or Supercharged.
build a sleeper and have fun with it but don't race people on public roadways/highways. Take it to a track. Depending on where you're at and definitely where I'm at the 'kids' have far inferior cars (a civic with an intake, knock off wheels, and a universal wing constitutes a build. Simply not worth my time, the threat of getting caught, nor the chance of an accident. Besides, I have nothing to prove to them...same reason I don't play basketball against elementary school kids.
I've never really trusted the do it yourself tuning devices, do they actually work? I would rather know that someone else has properly done it then to use a handheld device that I don't even know if it works; my brother has one for his Mustang GT, but I couldn't tell a difference.
I meant turbos in general are better in the higher rpms then a supercharger, only because the supercharger gives instant power but the turbos have the lag. Again, this is from what I've heard from around this forum, if this information is incorrect please let me know.
A single big turbo typically generates more high end HP, but has more lag compared to twins, right? I haven't made my mind up about turbos, I just know I want turbos over a supercharger.
(P.S. I'm just trying to build one hell of a f'ing sleeper to dust the kids on the highway pretty much, so mid-high rpm mods are what I'm going for... at least I think that's what I want to do.)
A single big turbo typically generates more high end HP, but has more lag compared to twins, right? I haven't made my mind up about turbos, I just know I want turbos over a supercharger.
(P.S. I'm just trying to build one hell of a f'ing sleeper to dust the kids on the highway pretty much, so mid-high rpm mods are what I'm going for... at least I think that's what I want to do.)
Turbo lag (as I understand it) is more a function of how much piping (volume) you have between two separate systems:
#1 - the back of the exhaust valves and the hotside of the turbo
#2 - the cold side of the turbo and the back of the intake valves
The turbo has to generate and compress a volume of air at a rate faster than what the engine is consuming it.
For instance - If you look at my previous greddy twin turbo build I had a good amount of intake pipe between the turbo and the intake valves … the turbos had to compress a large volume of air (faster than the engine was consuming the air) to build boost.
On my current build I am doing my absolute best to eliminate and/or minimize as much exhaust pipe as possible and as much intake pipe as possible - thus reducing the amount of volume of air the turbo has to compress before boost is built.
A good book you should pick up is Cork Bell's Maximum Boost and/or Supercharged.
build a sleeper and have fun with it but don't race people on public roadways/highways. Take it to a track. Depending on where you're at and definitely where I'm at the 'kids' have far inferior cars (a civic with an intake, knock off wheels, and a universal wing constitutes a build. Simply not worth my time, the threat of getting caught, nor the chance of an accident. Besides, I have nothing to prove to them...same reason I don't play basketball against elementary school kids.
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03-13-2019, 06:07 AM
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Naa - use the 'Quote' button when you reply...
I like you Naa - you're alright in my book...so I wont grill you on the aforementioned tuning platforms. Rather, google each one of those and see what comes up. None of them are hand-helds but rather full (or near full) spectrum tuning solutions.
Both superchargers and turbos have their pros and cons so figure out what you want and then research other peoples builds and do what's best for you.
Turbo lag (as I understand it) is more a function of how much piping (volume) you have between two separate systems:
#1 - the back of the exhaust valves and the hotside of the turbo
#2 - the cold side of the turbo and the back of the intake valves
The turbo has to generate and compress a volume of air at a rate faster than what the engine is consuming it.
For instance - If you look at my previous greddy twin turbo build I had a good amount of intake pipe between the turbo and the intake valves … the turbos had to compress a large volume of air (faster than the engine was consuming the air) to build boost.
On my current build I am doing my absolute best to eliminate and/or minimize as much exhaust pipe as possible and as much intake pipe as possible - thus reducing the amount of volume of air the turbo has to compress before boost is built.
A good book you should pick up is Cork Bell's Maximum Boost and/or Supercharged.
build a sleeper and have fun with it but don't race people on public roadways/highways. Take it to a track. Depending on where you're at and definitely where I'm at the 'kids' have far inferior cars (a civic with an intake, knock off wheels, and a universal wing constitutes a build. Simply not worth my time, the threat of getting caught, nor the chance of an accident. Besides, I have nothing to prove to them...same reason I don't play basketball against elementary school kids.
I like you Naa - you're alright in my book...so I wont grill you on the aforementioned tuning platforms. Rather, google each one of those and see what comes up. None of them are hand-helds but rather full (or near full) spectrum tuning solutions.
Both superchargers and turbos have their pros and cons so figure out what you want and then research other peoples builds and do what's best for you.
Turbo lag (as I understand it) is more a function of how much piping (volume) you have between two separate systems:
#1 - the back of the exhaust valves and the hotside of the turbo
#2 - the cold side of the turbo and the back of the intake valves
The turbo has to generate and compress a volume of air at a rate faster than what the engine is consuming it.
For instance - If you look at my previous greddy twin turbo build I had a good amount of intake pipe between the turbo and the intake valves … the turbos had to compress a large volume of air (faster than the engine was consuming the air) to build boost.
On my current build I am doing my absolute best to eliminate and/or minimize as much exhaust pipe as possible and as much intake pipe as possible - thus reducing the amount of volume of air the turbo has to compress before boost is built.
A good book you should pick up is Cork Bell's Maximum Boost and/or Supercharged.
build a sleeper and have fun with it but don't race people on public roadways/highways. Take it to a track. Depending on where you're at and definitely where I'm at the 'kids' have far inferior cars (a civic with an intake, knock off wheels, and a universal wing constitutes a build. Simply not worth my time, the threat of getting caught, nor the chance of an accident. Besides, I have nothing to prove to them...same reason I don't play basketball against elementary school kids.
You do make a good point about the civics on the highways lmao
03-21-2019, 05:06 AM
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Acronyms were right, all FI kits for these cars will come with their own intakes so no need to waste money on that. Keep in mind there are different styles of superchargers and they behave differently. Superchargers are generally easier on the engine as well.
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