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RPS vs. ATS????

Old May 13, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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I was talking to my friend about carbon clutches and he mentioned about RPS. I'm not sure if they have anything out for our cars yet, so I'd like to know more about this.

I know I've heard lots of benefits about these clutches, but I'd like to know if it can last at least as long as a normal clutch.

I'd like to get one simply because it grips better and supposively lasts longer... i'd like to beable to feather the clutch without worrying so much about wearing it out badly when launching. I stopped dumping the clutch when launching for the sake of traction.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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RPS is a carbon, carbon disk setup with carbon friction plate - xcosts just south of around 44k

ATS is dual carbon disks with a metal friction plate - csts about 50% as much, and can literally hold all the power anyone will remotely get out of a VQ35

No one can tell you how long it will last unless they know how you drive. I hear people say all the time that they know how to drive properly, but when we take their stock clutches apart to do an upgrade, there are heat spots galore, cracking. Conversely, many who have don't profess to be any sort of expert, when their clutches are removed, they look near new, just with the standard wearing on the disk and such..so its all relative.

The carbon disks themselves are much longer lasting than orgnaiz, all other things being equal, and they can take far more abuseive driving than any organic disk can. The nice thing about the multiplate clutches is that they can use a pressure plate with a lower clamping load, due to the coefficient of friction of the disks themelves, coupled to the fact that there are 2, not one.

I am about to install an OS Giken single disk clutch with integrated flywheel into my car, possibly today - will let you know how it goes!

When the time comes, I might upgrade to the ATS carbon unit, but not sure if I need that much clutch yet or not.

Let me know if you need more info on the ATS's!

Adam
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Old May 15, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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That ATS got me drooling. It put me off when the mechanic from JoTech said the clutch doesn't last long - this was for the triple plate setup.

I'm a spirited daily driver and my friends tease me that I rarely take it up high, but I really like to get around 400rwhp daily driving twinturbo car (always know power is on tap). The sound of boost and turbo thrust feels good :-). It probably won't be as much power as some of the more "extreme" owners (i.e. 450+rwhp with racing essentials). I'd like a simple setup that's reliable (fuel delivery) running around 8-8.5psi at most. I don't like tweaking it so much because of my knowlege with these setups.

So I was thinking about a twin plate ATS that can handle daily driving, and once in awhile spirited driving. I also don't dump the clutch much anymore when launching (only at track), but I prefer to feather it at high rpm now. I'd like something that can handle this without wearing like an organic clutch.

So what do you think? Oh yes, there are no tuners or installlers in my area :-(.
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