Well. What he actually offered me was a lot less than what he actually stated on the classifieds.

 

they tried telling me 750 shipped to washington...pass

 

Since I've been getting alot of PM's for the Mastergrade price guide, I'll just post them here.

Mastergrade TS diffuser- $500 wholesale, $350 to make
Mastergrade MG hatch- $600 wholesale, $400 to make
Mastergrade AMS Hood-$650 wholesale, $500 to make
Mastergrade TS front diffuser full CF- $550 wholesale, $350 to make
Mastergrade roof overlay- $300 wholesale, $125 to make
Mastergrade A-pillars- $300 wholesale, $150 to make
Mastergrade B-pillars- $60 wholesale, $25 to make
Mastergrade Venom Hood- $600 wholesale, $400 to make

Mastegrade G35 MG2 trunk- $500 wholesale, $350 to make
Mastergrade G35 MG1 trunk- $400 wholesale, $250 to make
Mastergrade G35 roof overlay- $300 wholesale, $150 to make

Mastergrade G37 MG trunk- $600 wholesale, $425 to make
Mastergrade G35 roof overlay- $320 wholesale, $175 to make

Mastergrade EvoX Roof Overlay- $320 wholesale, $175 to make
Mastergrade EvoX diffuser- $350 wholesale, $225 to make
Mastergrade EvoX DL trunk- $400 wholesale, $265 to make

So on and so forth. If your willing to walk the plank and actually try to buy a Mastergrade part make sure you aren't getting a $200 markup like alot of these shops are trying to do. You can cleary see Mastergrade was doing a 50% markup from production cost to what the dealers are paying. In most cases dealers are marking them up another 40-50%.

 

OMG I knew CF A pillares where cheap as hell to make. What else doubles from cost to wholesale then more to the customer. WTF I will never want to buy A pillers un-used.


I Need A pillars people, anyone want to sell theres???

 

No, there was never a time when we couldn't get our orders. We had held off from taking anymore Mastergrade orders as their problems started to come our way. Being that we have no real affiliation with the company, we didn't want their reputation to affect ours.

It is interesting to see the real issue of the problem pan out. "oh4TreefiddyZee", I have far more respect seeing where you came from. I was a bit naive when talking with you in the past, and I apologize if I had made any aggravated remarks.

We came into this issue long after the problems started. This product line had a substantial demand and was offered to us at an amazing rate from Showstoppers. We had then proceeded to stock on their products after several orders had been made. After a while, things started going south with Showstoppers and orders were held up for weeks on end (to avoid any problems, I won't go any further into details). But I can agree to what has been said, and it all needs to stop. We are going in an entirely different direction with this whole matter.

We are now (and have been) working with JDP Engineering in creating a (slightly) similar line up to what's currently offered by Mastergrade. For any of you who have had experience with John and JDP, you'll be very excited to see what will be released later this year.

http://www.jdpengineering.com/jdpcarbon/index.html

Everything they make is 100% top-notch. If there are any issues with the product, John will pay to have it sent back and a new item will be delivered. All carbon products are created by hand from start to finish. They guarantee a perfect fit and finish with every order.

 

In all honesty, making a profit isn't a crime. Us bigger companies with a decent amount of overhead need to make sure that the utilities, employees, bills, and rent are paid. I would say we are rather fair with our pricing. You have to take into account that these Mastergrade items cost a fortune to ship to residential areas, plus with each credit card/paypal transaction, 3-4% is taken from the gross amount paid. Everything is accounted for with each item we sell. There are reasons why the pricing is marked at any particular rate.

 

Hmmm. Interesting. You say your not affiliated with Showstoppers, yet the diffuser you sent me was sent from Showstoppers, and you told me you work hand in hand with Showstoppers with all your Mastergrade and Asuka stuff.

So what's the truth?

 

Right. As stated here and several other threads, we source Mastergrade from Showstoppers USA. Our relationship with them is mixture between a friendship of 10 years, locational convenience, and a business associative. In more recent events, the friendship took a back seat to the business relations. However, all negative connotations aside, we had worked with them in the distribution of Mastergrade products. The details of our purchasing/stocking/shipping gets fairly technical, and doesn't really support any point we are trying to make. In the end, we are about as affiliated with Showstoppers as you are to us.

 

Right. But i buy something from you, and it gets shipped out by Showstoppers. I think that makes you VERY affiliated. Certainly more than me.

Regardless to say, you lost a customer here, and i certainly wont be recommending you in a hurry.

 

[QUOTE=DriveLineSales;8176630]The details of our purchasing/stocking/shipping gets fairly technical, and doesn't really support any point we are trying to make. In the end, we are about as affiliated with Showstoppers as you are to us.[/QUOTE]

Care to explain? ...Because your honesty is appreciated but given all the negative feedback I don't think that statement is going to reassure any potential customer that they are guaranteed to receive a perfect product they paid for. Bottom line is it's pretty obvious from the recent past that showstoppers/boomer/mastergrade/asuka cannot be trusted on these forums. To me when I read the meaning behind that statement it says yeah we'll take your money and buy something from them when you pay us and whether or when you receive anything is out of our control.

Although, I will say I did order my Asuka doublehump roof from you back in december and I got it in 10 days delivered as promised, but that may have been because I probably sounded like I woulda killed you if you tried screwing me like AutoInfantry did.

 

No, we are no more than a customer to them- as you are to DriveLine. The terminology is called "Drop shipping". Its fairly common in this industry. When a product cannot be shipped directly from the vendor, many times the shipment will go out from the manufacturer/distributor to the customer to save on freight costs and time.

 

[QUOTE=themadhatterxxx;8176709]Regardless of how you sounded, we process every customers order in the same fashion. When an items is in stock, we can guarantee a lead time. There are no outer variables to get in the way. Glad to know you were happy with your order in the end.

Honestly I am not posting on here to gain anyone's respect or to win over any customers. There has been a good amount said over the past few months regarding several companies- Mastergrade, Asuka, Showstoppers, Auto Infantry, and DriveLine. I am just trying to shed some of the hidden light from our end.

On to the Showstoppers topic- As of right now the issue is too touchy for us to comment. I can say there will be a time when we'll add our .02 to the topic. The story won't be too different from what's already been posted here.

 

Yea but drop shipping only works when the manufacturer isn't a lying douchebag.
Well honestly that's just the worst deal on the planet for the customer considering the manufacturer CANNOt be trusted to do the right thing and no one in their right mind would have any confidence in them at this point. I cannot see how leaving the responsibility to ship to the customer is being entrusted in Showstoppers/MasterGrade/Boomer given the amount of negative history here. Unreal.

And im not even attempting to troll in this thread cuz I have nothing against Driveline and you guys took care of me. But this is just common sense.

 

Much of that is very true. In the case of a faulty distributor/manufacturer (I wont name names), the transaction can turn out very poor for the customer. From there it becomes a gamble for the merchant. It all comes down to knowing who you've dealt with and the experiences you've had in the past. We drop ship very little, but the companies we do work with- Cobb Tuning, Car Studio USA, Vertex USA, Perrin Performance, etc., are all very reputable and will handle the task efficiently.

 

I placed an order with JIM sept.5, 2009, here it is Febuary 26, 2010, and no rear diffuser from them, no refund, one shadey seller dodging the crowd he's marketing to, and im out $675. Jim made no effort to refund me, or even help, just said **** it since he doesnt work for them anymore, this was immeadiately after i placed the order. i ended up up getting one used for way cheaper, in great condition from a member on the forums. Thanks jim, thanks mastergrade, for sucking my money. Another member (username "Cow") was shipped the center piece with no mounting brackets, and no sides. wtf

OP, search yourself, every single thread that starts with mastergrade, ends like this, your thread just adds to the pile. You do the math.

 

Man, I want the mastergrade ts difuser so bad, but with all this seems like no company that supplies mastergrade can be trusted! This sucks, only option is Top secret and considering the wait for it...ahhh

 

We had the Top Secret (authentic) diffuser here a few days ago, from a special order cancellation. Unfortunately we have found a buyer for this one.
As for the current Mastergrade dealer/distributor list, well I am sure there are some out there. We still have 1 diffuser left here if you were interested.

 

I'm here, still vortex generator-less & mounting hardware-less.

By the way, in a funny story about what a piece of shitthe guys at Showstoppers are, before I had my Z, I had a Civic SI (EP3). SSUSA got its start selling parts mainly for the EP, but then expanded their horizons. Over the years on ephatch.com, there were numerous threads & complaints that SSUSA had screwed over its customers-- I personally know seven people who had issues with SSUSA that were never rectified. I was a moderator for a year or so & would often try to use my sway on the site to get issues from SSUSA's people, rarely successfully.

Anyway, in April of 2008, ephatch.com was sold to an anonymous buyer who wouldn't allow his identity to be known & had the site run through one admin who handled all the site problems. Long story short, Chuck from SSUSA bought the site & won't let it be known who owns the site as he's afraid of losing members. Some time last summer, soon after calling out SSUSA for screwing over another friend of mine, I was kicked off the site staff because the (still anonymous to me-- staff weren't told who owned the site either) owner at the time said I kept "fucking up." Most people on the site still don't know who owns ephatch.com-- I'd post up, but it'd just get deleted either by Chuck or the admin who does his dirty work.

 

"owner at the time said I kept "fucking up."

After all these years, I can safely say that's Chuck, but then again I could be wrong. All the evidence leads me to believe that you're probably right.

 

I know I'm right-- another guy & I did some digging & confirmed.

By "fucking up," he meant, "trying to steer people away from a vendor who would screw them out their money."

I want to buy the parts I need from you guys, but I don't want anything having to do with that greaseball around my product, no matter what the arrangement. Not only do I think he's a piece of shit & don't want to help his business in any way, I'm scared he'd recognize my name from the admin/ moderator section & sabotage my pieces.