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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:13 AM
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I picked up my 2006 350z recently and I was looking at replacing my center gauge pods and in time the center cluster as well (if i can find a dealer to program the correct respective Kms on it, legally).

The vehicle came from the US but I'm in Canada and the units are driving me crazy, speeds are so small i cant tell how fast im really going.

I found a set of gauge pods in kms on ebay but they are off an australian 350z so they are mirrored.

Does anyone know if they will fit? Im thinking the pods should be the same as long as i keep the original housing and just swap each individual pod.

If anyone has done this please let me know. I would prefer to order the new part before I take apart the car so any input on this issue would help.

The australian pods are pictured below.

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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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I would suggest looking into getting the parts from Mexico. They use kilometers, I have the reverse issue with my CR-V that came from there.

This is the equivalent of eBay there, they are parting this Z:
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/...olo-partes-_JM

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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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Do you speak spanish e30cabrio?

I tried using the translator but i cant figure out how to contact them.

If someone can send a question for me. I would be interested in the gauge cluster (main) and the center pods.

I use paypal for all transactions so that would be awesome if they still had those parts.

I spent the morning looking at the AUS vs US gauge pods and it looks like they wont fit, short of rewiring each pod, the circuit boards are literally mirrored. But the mexico idea is awesome

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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:35 AM
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I can communicate but am not comfortable in writing. When my Wife gets up (it's 3:30) I'll ask her to ask them about the parts you want.

Shipping from Mexico is pretty expensive. 5 years ago when I had to kill a credit card it cost 25.00 to have it shipped there. (it was in a FedEx envelope and weighed nothing)

Good luck.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:40 AM
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"Negative Ghost rider"-- Those pods are for RHD vehicles such as auzie, you have a LHD vehicle

Now as far as individual pods I would guess (at best) that yes it'll work physically by swapping them around. However will all the electronic connections mate up?? Who knows. interesting project. Perhaps check into a microchip or flash of the pod you have to convert readings. MIght be easier. ??

Just my guesses.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
I can communicate but am not comfortable in writing. When my Wife gets up (it's 3:30) I'll ask her to ask them about the parts you want.

Shipping from Mexico is pretty expensive. 5 years ago when I had to kill a credit card it cost 25.00 to have it shipped there. (it was in a FedEx envelope and weighed nothing)

Good luck.
I sent the mexico site a message using online translators. We'll see what he says so i should be ok.

I cant tell from the description if its an auto or MT6 350z but i asked about the gauge cluster as well.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimminggerman
"Negative Ghost rider"-- Those pods are for RHD vehicles such as auzie, you have a LHD vehicle

Now as far as individual pods I would guess (at best) that yes it'll work physically by swapping them around. However will all the electronic connections mate up?? Who knows. interesting project. Perhaps check into a microchip or flash of the pod you have to convert readings. MIght be easier. ??

Just my guesses.
Ya ure right, it will be a pain to get them to work from the auzzie model. I have heard of the converter chip but apparently you can never get kmh to ever pop up since its physically not there as a value so im not sure how flashing would work. It would be kind of silly if it said the kmph speed with a miles label slapped on afterwards (110 mph LOL instead of 110kph).

I found a wrecker nearby that has a canadian gauge pod for 135$ cad, Im contacting them today so that way i can sell off my stock mph ones off ebay instead of destroying them in the process.

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Old May 29, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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Does anyone know if they will fit? Im thinking the pods should be the same as long as i keep the original housing and just swap each individual pod.
How do you plan to take the cluster apart? Does not look like you can separate the individual gages with a hacksaw.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
How do you plan to take the cluster apart? Does not look like you can separate the individual gages with a hacksaw.
Hey thats the method I used, it worked great until I tried to plug it into the car, nothing worked for some reason.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
How do you plan to take the cluster apart? Does not look like you can separate the individual gages with a hacksaw.
you could have them transplanted if there is enough room to have the board hidden in the back but you are right, it wont work in the oem form.

Im just going to hunt for a canadian one, i figure i can at least sell the us one on ebay or here since its in mint condition. It would be a shame to destroy it just because its not in KMH. Stupid nissan and their programming, honestly all of our cars and they are not amazing cars or anything have a button to switch the overhead unit to kph/mph. It looks like nissan wanted to use lcd boards from old calculators.

At least i knew of the issue before i got the car, and these parts arent super expensive. Ive heard of some benzes with similar issues fetching clusters over 3000$ because of the conversion.

Ill keep you guys posted on how it goes, at least we can confirm the JDM/AUS version WILL NOT WORK plug and play.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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silly question but will the canadian pods work directly without any modification? Will they read the correct speed or is the speed sending unit specific for MPH or KPH?

Im just confirming things i have read among the different forums.

Has anyone also replaced their cluster and found a dealer to program the corresponding mileage? My local dealer told me some BS about putting in a new cluster and with a sticker that says at which mileage it was replaced at. That sounds completely childish. Surely a dealer could get into the cluster chip and add in the new km equivalent on a new OR old cluster. its a shame nissan wasnt smart enough to put the mileage in the BCM. Might as well have an analog odometer
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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^^ If they can't program it, then yes, that's exactly what they do. Childish or not, it's the same thing that happens when someone rolls over the mechanical limits of their odometer. They may do the same thing with yours if they truly have no way of reprogramming it. And the Canadian gauge pod will work great as long as you get the Canadian version of the white A/C controller box under the headunit too, it drives all the gauges... Also saying that Nissan is not smart for putting mileage in the BCM is like saying the CIA is not smart because they didn't make all their information and files available to the general internet instead of keeping them in their intranet. The BCM is one of the easiest things to tamper with as far as modules go, my $300 OBDII connector and software allow me to do all sorts of things with the windows and blinkers and locks. Putting the mileage in a place where it's hard to tamper with keeps more people honest. Car manufacturers who put the mileage in the BCM and make it accessible through the OBD port are the less intelligent ones good sir.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 05:26 AM
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do you have a part number for the a/c module that is needed?

Im going to a local wrecker to get the pods sometime this week so i need to get an idea of what it looks like or they wont know.

BTW we dont need to justify their choices, either way they made it really expensive to get a very simple needed change made. Its not even a data safety issue, its just money.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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No part number, but there's a picture of it here: http://www.sound-repair.com/index.ph...tereo-removal/

BTW, they made it this way because most people never experience this issue. You're the black sheep, it's not their fault. In my opinion they did it the right way, in your opinion, and due to your circumstances, they did it the wrong way. I like knowing that when I buy another Z car, the mileage has not been tampered with unless someone had some very nice soldering skills and a programmer lying around. So it is a data safety issue, not money.
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