To close the door lol

 

Ahh, again we agree to disagree, sir.

I'm all about handling. And YES, power is a key factor here, no doubt about that; one needs the power to be able to use both feet (and sometimes a third foot) to keep the car in check - be it for trail braking, heel-toe, and more specifically, power to the rear wheels to bring the back end around to where it needs to be, etc.

But as you alluded to, less experienced drivers don't have that luxury without lots of practice and, ahem, maybe "driving school" (laff...). That being the case, how is 100-200 additional horsepower going to help in this situation? IMO, a "recipe for disaster".

You have to remember something too.... While I don't qualify for social security yet (many years 'til that! ), I come from the days where horsepower is king and we built our cars to go fast in a straight line. But then, after being spanked soundly by a guy in a 240Z - with somewhere near a 200 horsepower deficit to my built Chevy Nova - on a set of mild turns, I changed my tune very quickly and that got me started on this 40+ year affliction known as "Z-Fever" where handling trumps mo'power.

No, I'm not dissin' on the drag racers amongst us at all! I watch the likes of Antron Brown and John Force driving their 10,000 pony fuel cars regularly (or even a person in the family station wagon at Wednesday night bracket races) in much awe.

But for my personal driving pleasure, it's all about clipping the perfect apex and controlling the lateral g-force chaos.

So I build for that then add power as needed or as my budget allows. (Yes, I do build to a budget.... HAHAHA!)

Bottom line: I make use of every pony I have underhood and do I want more at times? OF COURSE. But "want" and "need" are two very different things. If asked to choose between food or sex, well....

...and I'm not going there.

Peace, brudduh! Heehee....

 

True. And i think theres a mis communication. When i said youre able to drive the car to its potential im not saying no one else can.

Im saying 9/10 dont take these cars on tight roads or twisty tracks. So a sway bar wont be as enjoyable to them making a left hand turn at the stop light as say 100 extra hp on the on ramp.

Its easier to handle 300hp on the straight than it is to handle 200hp on the turns.

For me i like both, i want both so i build mine for both. But thats just me. I like the fact i can hit the on ramp and get up to speed quickly, and able to take the car through the canyon on the weekends. Its a both for me. Not the fastest in the streets, not the best in the canyon, but its a compromise between both. And thats what i wanted

 

It's actually the oh crud handle

 

what in the **** does a handle have to do with suspension or FI?

 

If you hold on to one, it helps you pull 3g.

 

i see. well this isnt for the driver its for the passenger

and child please, 3g aint nothing my cell gets 4g

 

Its call a copilot fool. 4g are for people who drives 350z. Swaggers have lte.

 

Lol.. Even if we were just arguing in the other thread..


That **** was funny right there

 

Welcome to my350z, where we argue in one thread, and laugh together in another. Lol it happens alot here.

 

350z is a **** the passenger type of car, they didnt even put a air bag shut off for when your cruising with your favorite midget... I think a nice handle on the dash would ve the easy way to help your passenger complain less... Could attach it to that nice metal panel thats bolted under their... Along with the door handle with the awesome aluminum can trim they should be able to keep themselves stable.

 

Get passengers with built in air bags. If you catch my drift

 

10-4

 

J/K I knew what you ment..

 

Post 34 is think af

 

Anyone read that other thread with the bent steering wheel in it?

I think we just found out what bent it.

 

you're better than that

 

We call that a Jesus bar where I'm from. If there's nothing in the roof to attach it to, like brackets or studs, it's a bad idea to put it there. Either spot weld the basketry, thus ruining the roof paint, use a bar on the dash, or get a full harness and harness bar.